As an experiment, Alec reached out to a Tesla Used Vehicle Sales Advisor to try and see if he could ask for Autopilot and FSD to be removed from a used vehicle.
Alec suggested he wanted a particular car, but wanted to save money by having FSD deleted. The Sales Advisor told him that
That goes directly against Alec’s experience, where Tesla did remove FSD from a used car.“...if it’s added and it’s a used car they just simply will not remove it.”
"Of course that's just my opinion; I could be wrong."
Originally Posted by The Igneous FactionOriginally Posted by WhistlerYOW
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If it was erroneously included with the vehicle and included on the Monroney sticker but the original owner hadn't paid for it, then the error is on Tesla.
Stupid of Tesla to not just cover it. Software is a high margin business and it would cost them nothing.
Reminds me of a story. Back in 2004 I had a new Volvo S60 2.5T (AKA the light turbo, previously 2.4T). There was another model a step up, the Volvo S50 T5. Well what did 19 year old 2000JettaGLXVR6 do? He rebadged the car, removing the "2." from the badge, and repositioning the "T" before the "5" to make "T5" -- for poser status. They are both 2.5 liters.
I ended up trading the car in on a new 2004 Acura TL 6MT and didn't think anything of it at the time, the dealer has the VIN, the original monroney and the owners manual -- and had written the trade down as 2.5 liter on the worksheet (probably based on VIN).
About 2 weeks pass, I'm enjoying my new car and I get a call from the Acura dealer that there's a problem with my trade and they gave me too much money based on it being a "T5", not a "2.5T" - at this point they gave me an ultimatum, I bring a check in for $2700 or I can return the car and get my Volvo back. So I'm like okay, I'll be there in 15 minutes with your car and I'll take my Volvo back.
I arrived at the dealership, they were no longer interested in taking a used Acura back, I had called their bluff. I'm like here's $500 cash, take it or leave it. They took it.
People buying Tesla's just need to come to grips with the facts that the salespeople are equivalent to the ones in a T Mobile store and the after sale support is on par with Comcast. If you want to find someone to have an F to give, you're going to have to put a lot of hours into it.
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Alec sneakily got his AutoPilot back:
On the upside, media scrutiny over this story appears to have triggered those features returning to Alec's Model S, no charge.
All they needed to do was to ask what the upside would be to pulling that feature. When that column had nothing in it the decision should’ve been done. It had already gone too far, but at least they can put it to bed now.
Originally Posted by Boyz in da Park
I can see things like satellite radio, On Star, or data plans not transferring since they are subscriptions based, but this was BS. Like Spockcat's analogy with coming and stealing your wheels. You buy them once, and they stay.
If the Monroney says my car came with the XXX Touring package that included the fancy 20" wheels, and I swapped them out for base wheels before trading the car in, is the next owner entitled to the fancy wheels I sold on CL?
The ONLY acceptable reasoning I could see for this was that vehicle was originally lemon law'd because of problems with the Autopilot hardware in it, so while in Tesla's ownership they simply remove the software modules to "fix" the problem and enable it to be resold; however, that would necessitate a new Mulroney IMHO, and should only be done while in Tesla's ownership.