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    1. 05-19-2020 05:21 PM #76
      I've always wondered if I'd be a decent mechanic, and after purchasing this truck, I know for a fact that I am not. The 22RE is supposed to be one of the easiest engines to work on, and my particular example has no A/C or P/S to clutter up the engine bay either. I've been struggling with the head gasket job for the past two weeks (although admittedly, I've only been working on it here and there while not working my real job and waiting due to slower parts shipping). I tried to fill the truck up two days ago, only to find water pouring out of the intake manifold. Silly me figured that the intake manifold didn't need to be sealed crazy tight since it just let in air and fuel, right?

      I ended up removing the intake manifold again (not a big job, to be honest), cleaned off both the head and manifold surfaces, RTV'd the gasket in there and torqued the bolts to the correct spec in the right sequence. Filled it up today and no leaks! Started it up though and .... same problem. Temp gauge still creeps past halfway and upper radiator hose/thermostat housing doesn't get that hot (thermostat is 190F, housing only got to around 135F).

      Either I screwed up the HG install, have an air pocket of doom in the cooling system, or the problem wasn't the HG to start with.

      Big respect to the good mechanics out there who can do this stuff for a living day in and day out, because I can't.

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      05-22-2020 10:54 AM #77
      Quote Originally Posted by Raguvian View Post
      I've always wondered if I'd be a decent mechanic, and after purchasing this truck, I know for a fact that I am not. The 22RE is supposed to be one of the easiest engines to work on, and my particular example has no A/C or P/S to clutter up the engine bay either. I've been struggling with the head gasket job for the past two weeks (although admittedly, I've only been working on it here and there while not working my real job and waiting due to slower parts shipping). I tried to fill the truck up two days ago, only to find water pouring out of the intake manifold. Silly me figured that the intake manifold didn't need to be sealed crazy tight since it just let in air and fuel, right?

      I ended up removing the intake manifold again (not a big job, to be honest), cleaned off both the head and manifold surfaces, RTV'd the gasket in there and torqued the bolts to the correct spec in the right sequence. Filled it up today and no leaks! Started it up though and .... same problem. Temp gauge still creeps past halfway and upper radiator hose/thermostat housing doesn't get that hot (thermostat is 190F, housing only got to around 135F).

      Either I screwed up the HG install, have an air pocket of doom in the cooling system, or the problem wasn't the HG to start with.

      Big respect to the good mechanics out there who can do this stuff for a living day in and day out, because I can't.
      Don't be so hard on yourself. Being a mechanic is a skill just like anything else. Most people aren't naturally good at it and only become good at it by experience. Anybody that you consider to be a good mechanic, ask them what they've screwed up in the past. You'll get some great stories. I know I've done TONS of dumb crap in the past and immediately looked at it and thought "wow I'm dumb."

      Searched and found a couple threads.
      https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...ng-on-your-car
      https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...e-fixing-a-car

    4. 05-22-2020 08:16 PM #78
      So, I gave up and had a friend come over and look at the truck. I put the gutted thermostat in and showed him that the upper radiator hose was getting hot and that the truck wasn't overheating. We also boiled the thermostat and saw that it was working, but when I put it back in the truck, the gauge showed it was overheating again.

      He ended up saying the engine bay and engine didn't seem hot at all and that it didn't seem like it was overheating and started suspecting the temperature sender. I told him it was a new Toyota OEM sender. Then I remembered I bought it on eBay and went to go to the eBay listing, only to find that the seller's store had been closed by eBay, and a few negative reviews saying that the seller was selling counterfeit items marked as OEM parts. We immediately went to Autozone and bought another (non OEM branded) sender, put that in and started the truck back up. Sure enough, the thermostat popped open when the temp gauge showed about halfway, and everything seems to be running great. Upper radiator hose gets hot, gauge reads a little less than halfway.

      I suppose I deserve it because I tried to save $20 on a sender by buying it on ebay and ended up spending $350 replacing a head gasket. I guess I learned my lesson the hard way.

      TL;DR: I got scammed on eBay and ended up replacing a headgasket because of it.

    5. 05-22-2020 08:19 PM #79
      Quote Originally Posted by Stromaluski View Post
      Don't be so hard on yourself. Being a mechanic is a skill just like anything else. Most people aren't naturally good at it and only become good at it by experience. Anybody that you consider to be a good mechanic, ask them what they've screwed up in the past. You'll get some great stories. I know I've done TONS of dumb crap in the past and immediately looked at it and thought "wow I'm dumb."

      Searched and found a couple threads.
      https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...ng-on-your-car
      https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...e-fixing-a-car
      Apparently getting scammed trying to save a buck is going to be the story of this truck...

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      05-22-2020 09:50 PM #80
      Quote Originally Posted by Raguvian View Post
      So, I gave up and had a friend come over and look at the truck. I put the gutted thermostat in and showed him that the upper radiator hose was getting hot and that the truck wasn't overheating. We also boiled the thermostat and saw that it was working, but when I put it back in the truck, the gauge showed it was overheating again.

      He ended up saying the engine bay and engine didn't seem hot at all and that it didn't seem like it was overheating and started suspecting the temperature sender. I told him it was a new Toyota OEM sender. Then I remembered I bought it on eBay and went to go to the eBay listing, only to find that the seller's store had been closed by eBay, and a few negative reviews saying that the seller was selling counterfeit items marked as OEM parts. We immediately went to Autozone and bought another (non OEM branded) sender, put that in and started the truck back up. Sure enough, the thermostat popped open when the temp gauge showed about halfway, and everything seems to be running great. Upper radiator hose gets hot, gauge reads a little less than halfway.

      I suppose I deserve it because I tried to save $20 on a sender by buying it on ebay and ended up spending $350 replacing a head gasket. I guess I learned my lesson the hard way.

      TL;DR: I got scammed on eBay and ended up replacing a headgasket because of it.
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    7. 05-24-2020 04:07 PM #81
      It lives (at least for now)!





      It's running on straight water right now. If it doesn't give me any problems this week, I'll put the OEM coolant sensors I ordered in and fill it up with actual coolant.

    8. Yesterday 06:10 PM #82
      I've been driving the truck around between yesterday and today, and even in 90+ degree weather, the temperature has been fine so far. I've been melting inside the truck, but as long as it runs fine, I'm happy.

      Next weekend I'll hopefully be able to switch to real coolant and also grease up all the steering components. The steering box still has a little bit of play on center but it's not enough to bother me. It is a 30 year old truck, after all.

      PS, this truck is seriously tiny, especially now that it's been lowered. It's about the same height as the G35 coupe next to it.


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