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    1. 04-14-2020 02:42 PM #51
      I bought an OEM thermostat from the dealership. It looked a little crusty and was a little sticky when I opened it with my fingers. Threw it in anyways, and same deal. It still overheats with the top hose not getting warm at all.

      I gutted the $6 Stant thermostat and will put that in. If the truck still overheats, then at least I know it's not the t-stat. I will also boil the OEM one and see if it opens, but I'm even more confused as to why it's overheating. What are the chances of getting two bad thermostats in a row?

      The truck was running fine till I pulled the valve cover to adjust the valves. Immediately after that it started overheating, but I didn't touch the cooling system, so I'm not sure how the two are interconnected...

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    3. 04-15-2020 07:30 PM #52
      I stuck the gutted thermostat in, bled the truck (again), and almost immediately I could feel the upper radiator hose getting warm. I decided to take it for a quick drive, and it never got hotter than this:



      I guess I'm 2/2 for bad thermostats? The OEM one definitely felt sticky when trying to open it, so I just returned it to the dealership and ordered an even fancier 2 stage thermostat. Apparently the 22RE has an issue where if the heater is running, the coolant loses too much heat after going through the heater core, so by the time it gets to the thermostat it's too cold for the t-stat to open, hence the truck overheats. I have been blasting the heater while bleeding the system, so I'm wondering if that could also be causing the overheating issue. Supposedly the dual stage thermostat should fix it, so I'm hoping this will be the end of my thermostat swapping.

      Before I put the nice expensive thermostat in though, I will try and flush the cooling system out first. I'm just hoping the engine didn't overheat enough to blow the headgasket or anything.

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      04-15-2020 07:51 PM #53
      I love this thread! You've got a great little truck here. I always liked the way these drove. They just seemed to be smoother than their domestic counterparts.

      But I did just take in a 99k mile 03 Ford Ranger 2wd with a 4.0 and a 5 speed (extended cab). This thing is crazy smooth, and drives really nice. But being 6'4" I'm just little on the large side for this.

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      04-15-2020 08:36 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Dieselstation View Post
      YES!!! I want a Hakotora so bad (Datsun Sunny with Skyline front end)

      Well hello pretty thing, how YOU doin?

      Thats hot.

    6. 04-16-2020 01:21 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by Crispyfritter View Post
      I love this thread! You've got a great little truck here. I always liked the way these drove. They just seemed to be smoother than their domestic counterparts.

      But I did just take in a 99k mile 03 Ford Ranger 2wd with a 4.0 and a 5 speed (extended cab). This thing is crazy smooth, and drives really nice. But being 6'4" I'm just little on the large side for this.

      Chris
      Thanks!

      My friends were telling me to buy an extended cab. I can see why, because at 6'3" I'm a little too tall as well for the tiny cab, but I ended up putting in a smaller steering wheel and it really isn't too bad to drive.

      I just ordered some takeout so I'm going to take the truck out and see how it drives again with no thermostat. I also just got all the suspension and steering stuff, so I'll be starting that whole project soon. This weekend I'll be flushing out the cooling system first to make sure its good to go before the fancy new thermostat comes in.

    7. 04-16-2020 04:56 PM #56
      I knew having a truck would come in handy...




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      04-17-2020 09:20 AM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by Raguvian View Post
      I knew having a truck would come in handy...

      ...What are you even doing there?

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      04-17-2020 03:37 PM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by Stromaluski View Post
      ...What are you even doing there?
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    10. 04-18-2020 08:00 PM #59
      It was a nice place to take some lunch meetings. I just pulled up near my house to get the Wifi and work.


      Back to this massive pile of crap and its overheating issues, the truck was running great with no thermostat, it just never got up to operating temperature (understandably). I flushed out the radiator with a ton of distilled water, until the stuff coming out of the radiator was clear water again. I also put in the new dual stage thermostat, and bam, yet again it started to overheat.

      I guess I'll pressure test it tonight and see if it hold, or if the headgasket is dead. This is where I'm really starting to regret buying this steaming pile.

    11. 04-18-2020 11:35 PM #60
      So much for 22RE reliability. I pressure tested the cooling system, and it doesn't hold pressure. After pressure testing it, I turned the engine on and again there is a lot of white smoke coming out of the tailpipe that takes a while to clear out. I can also get the truck to misfire if I time the revs right, which makes it seem like coolant is getting into the cylinder(s).

      The sad part is, I owned a '91 4Runner with also 150k miles with the 3VZE V6, and everyone told me to be careful of head gasket issues with those. That truck was great for the 10 months I owned it and I only sold it because I moved. I've put less than 700 miles on this 22RE and so far the clutch has died, the timing chain started rattling and now the head gasket decided to go. I'm not sure who owned this truck before me but it's probably lived a rough life.

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      04-19-2020 10:58 AM #61
      Unfortunately, 22 RE‘s are known for head gasket failures. My red forerunner did i it then I blew the engine because I let it go too long.


      https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...ht-why-255237/

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      04-19-2020 12:11 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by Raguvian View Post
      So much for 22RE reliability. I pressure tested the cooling system, and it doesn't hold pressure. After pressure testing it, I turned the engine on and again there is a lot of white smoke coming out of the tailpipe that takes a while to clear out. I can also get the truck to misfire if I time the revs right, which makes it seem like coolant is getting into the cylinder(s).

      The sad part is, I owned a '91 4Runner with also 150k miles with the 3VZE V6, and everyone told me to be careful of head gasket issues with those. That truck was great for the 10 months I owned it and I only sold it because I moved. I've put less than 700 miles on this 22RE and so far the clutch has died, the timing chain started rattling and now the head gasket decided to go. I'm not sure who owned this truck before me but it's probably lived a rough life.
      Dang.

    14. 04-19-2020 08:11 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post
      Unfortunately, 22 RE‘s are known for head gasket failures. My red forerunner did i it then I blew the engine because I let it go too long.


      https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...ht-why-255237/
      Well, too late to complain too much about it now.

      I'm just wondering what else I should replace while I'm in there. I'm thinking about getting a new CSF radiator, silicone hoses and new head bolts as well, but this stuff is adding up so quick. I just don't want to keep having to work on the engine.

      I'm already looking at ~$500 in parts, without labor for decking the head.

    15. 04-20-2020 11:15 PM #64
      I decided to go ahead and start working on the suspension/steering stuff since I had all the parts and I was tired of messing around with the engine. I got both hubs, ball joints and all steering linkages out of the truck yesterday (the tie rod ends were so hard to pull off that I gave up and removed everything as one unit since it was all getting replaced anyways). Today I pulled the upper control arms off, which was pretty tough because the driver's side needed to have the steering box unbolted and moved to get enough room to wiggle the upper control arm out. I was able to boil the old bushings out of one control and and replaced it with the new Energy Suspension bushings before calling it a day.

      Also, everything is covered in so much crud and grease that it's not a fun job so far.





      Tomorrow I will figure out how to loosen the torsion bars without killing myself (hopefully) and then remove the lower control arms to replace the bushings in there.

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      04-21-2020 03:31 AM #65
      Truck is going to be brand new by the time you are done. Good time to have a project to work on

    17. 04-22-2020 12:28 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by HI SPEED View Post
      Truck is going to be brand new by the time you are done. Good time to have a project to work on
      Thanks! The nice thing is that I have no time frame to fix this since I don't really have anywhere to go.

      I tried to get the lower control arms off by removing the torsion bars, but the adjusters for the torsion bars are pretty stuck. I can't get the jam nuts off to loosen the adjusters, so I just gave up, put the new bushings into the other upper control arm and put them back in the truck. I guess I'll try again with some heat this time.

    18. 04-26-2020 08:30 PM #67
      New upper and lower control arm bushings are in! Also installed the new Moog upper and lower ball joints and Belltech drop spindle.

      Unfortunately the Belltech shocks don't fit, so I'm going to call them tomorrow and see what to do about that. Pretty frustrating, to be honest.


    19. 05-07-2020 11:57 AM #68
      Update time! I got the front shocks to fit by pressing out the lower shock mount and putting the shock in through the top of the control arm.

      Front all finished:



      The rear went together super easily. The suspension at full droop is now lower than the stock suspension on the ground.



      Anyways, with the suspension fully completed (I think), I decided to go back to the engine. I did a compression test and got ~200 psi across all 4 cylinders, so I wasn't sure what to do. I decided to just go ahead and pull the head because it had overheated anyways, so I pulled it out and sent it to the machine shop. I'm just waiting on the head and head bolts before I try to put this thing back together. In the mean time, I'm fighting the oil pan to get it off the block. It seems I did too good of a job in sealing it back up after the timing chain.


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      05-07-2020 12:38 PM #69
      Looking good!

      This is quickly becoming one of my favorite threads.

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      05-07-2020 07:49 PM #70
      What do you plan for the exhaust?
      My 84 Celica GTS with the 22RE had a nice big resonator, which did help the exhaust sound nice.
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    22. 05-08-2020 10:43 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by Crispyfritter View Post
      Looking good!

      This is quickly becoming one of my favorite threads.

      Chris
      Thanks!! That means a lot. I've learned so much in the past 2-3 months, but this truck has definitely been the major cause of all my stress and worry.

      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      What do you plan for the exhaust?
      My 84 Celica GTS with the 22RE had a nice big resonator, which did help the exhaust sound nice.
      To be honest, I haven't really planned on anything other than praying that this truck will run when I put it back together... that said I'd love to try to weld something up myself since a few of my friends have welders.

      First priority is trying to fix the overheating issue, then get the truck aligned and driving right, then brakes and exhaust.

    23. 05-12-2020 11:53 PM #72
      I think this truck is cursed. I got the timing chain cover, head gasket and head all put back on, and put on the intake manifold, exhaust manifold and oil pan on today. One of the timing cover bolts also holds the alternator bracket, so I removed the bolt (with a 1/4" ratchet FWIW), and hand threaded the bolt back in before trying to torque it to spec. It stripped at well less than its torque spec, and now I'm not sure WTF to do.

      Some recommendations I've gotten are to pull the head and/or pan and helicoil it, other people say to just run it and that it shouldn't leak too much. I just want this stupid truck out of my garage.

    24. 05-17-2020 04:56 PM #73
      Another update! It turns out the bolt that "stripped" was too short and couldn't hold up to 29lb ft of torque. I ended up tapping the hole and cleaning it up, and then put in a much longer bolt (that didn't bottom out) and it torqued down easily.

      All that's left is to change the fuel filter, add fluids, tension the alternator belt and start it, but this is the biggest job I've ever attempted and I'm honestly super nervous about starting it and finding out that it still overheats or something even worse.


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      05-17-2020 08:38 PM #74
      Quote Originally Posted by Raguvian View Post
      Another update! It turns out the bolt that "stripped" was too short and couldn't hold up to 29lb ft of torque. I ended up tapping the hole and cleaning it up, and then put in a much longer bolt (that didn't bottom out) and it torqued down easily.

      All that's left is to change the fuel filter, add fluids, tension the alternator belt and start it, but this is the biggest job I've ever attempted and I'm honestly super nervous about starting it and finding out that it still overheats or something even worse.

      Fingers crossed.

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      Looking forward to the next update!
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