RVAE34 thread has me sweating Tacomas.
Plus you can get it in a stick and/or AWD depending on your preferences.
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My car is a base model and I bought mine brand new in 2018 for $23,000 OTD. I'm willing to bet you can find a lightly used one for less than $20k out the door with some options if you prefer, or else a leftover model brand new that you can haggle down awfully close to $20k.
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On the other end, fuel economy is better in the sportwagen due to the smaller engine and FWD. But I don't think you can beat the practicality with the price of the TourX. If you don't get a 2018/2019 GSW, your warranty will be better on the Regal (4yr/60k miles B2B vs 3/36 miles).
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Dropped by a local VW store and took a look at the Golf Sportwagen. It was too late in the evening to test drive as I arrived about 10 mins to closing but spoke to the saleperson over the phone and he had the car open and ready for me to explore.
My multi-purpose ladder fits! Albeit towards the rear of the hatch and not up against the seat backs as it did in the RAV4 but regardless, it fits well and has enough room for my work bags behind.
For reference, see the Volt from earlier this week without the Pelican cases:
If you’re looking for something with some value at the end of your tenure with ~100k just ask yourself what normal non-enthusiast people would go for with that kind of mileage (spoiler: it’s not VW)
I get it, a GSW/Alltrack is mighty enticing and I appreciated the packaging in my Mk6 JSW, but it wasn’t worth sh*t a few years later when I was done with it, and it was pre-Dieselgate too.
While my DD fleet looks like enthusiast hell right now, I can get some use out of these vehicles and they’d still be worth something at the end of the day. Granted I think they’re overvalued but it doesn’t matter what I think they’re worth. It matters what someone else will pay. I suppose if you’re going manual it’s all moot anyway - no one will pay for those
How is the rear seat space in the GSW? We poked around VW when looking for a bigger car to accommodate the rear facing seat and thought the GSW looked too tight (didn’t test fit) whereas the Tig was much better in that department.
I know Mazda wasn't your preference, but I took a quick measurement on our 2010 Mazda5 last night.
The upright seating position makes for a ton of space for child seats (we have three, including twins that were in rear facing seats in this car). With the third row folded, there's about 40" to the rear gate, and since the second row is on rails, you can slide one up just a bit if needed to make more space without really hindering the child seat capabilities.
I paid $16,500 brand-new 10 years ago, so surely the nicest low-mile newer example in the world would be a low-teens price.
Originally Posted by sosumi on the B6 S4 V8
The packaging efficiency is really tremendous, and it actually handles pretty well around town. The downside is that it's not exactly luxurious and it's not my favorite car for a cross-country road trip (though I've done it several times). The road noise is a little high and the seats aren't super-comfortable for me if it's a 10-hours-a-day thing. Rust is probably the main killer of these in salt climates, but they aren't as bad as the early-mid 2000's Mazda products. We've been able to keep the body totally rust-free with minimal care and I've kept the underside pretty decent with Fluid Film and a little rustoleum touchup on the chassis a few years ago.
Originally Posted by sosumi on the B6 S4 V8
We've owned a few Mazdas over the years, going all the way back the 626 in the mid-90s. We never had a single major issue with any of them. Even our Protege5 was rust-free after 100k hard Vermont miles—I should have kept that one, great little car.
Oddly enough, my least favorite Mazda was the one that TCL clamored for (but not many bought) the V6, 5spd manual, Mazda6 wagon. Just an all-around underwhelming car that I was very happy to have totaled in a very minor accident (with no injuries).
I'd happily own another Mazda if we had a local dealer again. We test drove a last-gen Mazda3 hatch last year and if we didn't need tall-family rear seat space we might have bought one as the deals were great and we loved the car itself.
My wife absolutely hammers our 2012 Mazda 5 and it just keeps taking it like a champ. That being said, they have been out of production since 2015 and are all pretty old now (although probably still reliable). My choice would be either a Sportwagen or Regal TourX.
Reliability wise it never put a foot wrong in 6 years/125k miles. I did most of the oil changes and tire rotations myself - cost about $30 with a 5-qt jug of 0W-20 (usually Castrol Edge) from Amazon and a OE Mazda filter. It was also 4.5 qts in, 4.5 qts out, always.
There was 1 big service at 75k where I did a drain/fill on the trans and new spark plugs. I also replaced the belts at one point, and went thru 1 set of tires and brakes (originals lasted till 115k).
The 2013 was a perfectly serviceable car, if a bit basic. The newer ones are much improved on the fit/finish, but the mechanicals have stayed the same. Chassis aren’t athletic as ze Germans, but decent for what they are (basic). Contrary to TCL belief ours didn’t hold a ton of value - bought for $18k, sold it for $5300 after 6 years/125k. Everything working perfectly, no rust, good tires/brakes, everything. The name just doesn’t carry the same weight as Toyota/Honda, or even Subaru in these parts. I see other 2008 Outbacks like the one that replaced our Mazda, for the same $5k as we sold our Mazda for.
Again, in my mind a reliable 2013 Mazda >>> 2008 Outback, but the market doesn’t agree.
They are light on passenger and cargo space, which is why we got rid of our 3 hatch. It did have a folding seat if that works for you. Having owned Mazdas for 10 years I’m ready for something new but they always treated me right for the cheap runabouts they are.
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I went out and measured my 2018 GLI and it shows 42 in. Maybe that opens some possibilities for OP.
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So I went back and re-red the OP post and the MK6 Jetta obviously is not a hatch but the trunk is huge and meets all other req. So I will leave it here in case he is interested.
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