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      02-12-2020 02:31 PM #1
      https://www.motortrend.com/news/volk...s-de-nysschen/



      Quote Originally Posted by Motor Trend
      The Volkswagen electric microbus van will be built in Germany and exported globally, including to North America when it goes into production in 2022, says Johan de Nysschen, chief operating officer of Volkswagen of America. The VW bus is back, baby, which we already knew. Besides its assembly location, here is the latest on the bus's name and how VW plans to bring it to market, from the mouth of de Nysschen himself.

      Yes, we called it the microbus—the name applied to its spiritual hippie-era predecessor—but so far the new one has also informally gone by I.D. Buzz, the name of the electric bus concept that presaged it. And in his interview with MotorTrend, de Nysschen says I.D. Buzz is what they call it internally. "There is no formal name yet." Not to micromanage their bus plans, but has "Microbus" come up yet?

      The I.D. Buzz concept has been around for a while. We even drove it in 2017. Hence, that name still sticks. When the ID Buzz or whatever VW calls it becomes a reality, it will be a low-volume niche vehicle that only needs a single plant to supply all global demand. While Volkswagen concentrates on bread-and-butter small cars for Europe and Asia, and its growing lineup of crossovers for North America and the rest of the world, the bus will be a lifestyle vehicle.

      It is intended to show the fun side of VW, an important role given the raft of electric vehicles coming from the automaker's modular electric-vehicle platform known as MEB. That architecture has spawned a raft of VW concept cars and SUVs, all with "I.D." in their names. The first production MEB vehicle, a small four-door hatchback for Europe, has the formal name of I.D. 3 and looks about as interesting as a toaster. De Nysschen said the VW Group has made the decision to use ID for the family name of electric vehicles—it's the Buzz part that has not been locked down for the far more exciting microbus (if we type it enough, will it become a thing?).

      Similarly, executives have been referring to the electric compact vehicle headed to the U.S. as the I.D. 4. Again, de Nysschen says the name has not been confirmed. We think it is just a formality for the small crossover that is based on the ID Crozz concept. What is confirmed is it will eventually be built in the expanded VW plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

      Another MEB concept we love is the I.D. Buggy, a two-seat electric dune buggy shown at the 2019 Geneva Motor Show. Herbert Diess, chairman of the Volkswagen AG Board of Management, said he wanted to see it produced. We were told German electric vehicle startup e-Go Mobile would build them in the low volumes needed. But little progress has been made to actually get the dune buggy-esque EV to market. No business plan has been presented to the board and no decisions have been made. Given how VW is investing $66 billion by 2023 in electrification, mobility and digital technology—"We're throwing down the gauntlet," de Nysschen says—we think the automaker needs to be considering any and all potential EVs, the I.D. Buggy included. After all, Volkswagen intends to sell 22 million EVs globally by 2029.
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    3. 02-12-2020 02:34 PM #2
      But will there be a Westphalia version?!

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      02-12-2020 02:37 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by EverthingIsTerrible View Post
      But will there be a Westphalia version?!
      Is that one with the extra large tent?

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      02-12-2020 02:41 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by EverthingIsTerrible View Post
      But will there be a Westphalia version?!


      Outdoor lifestyle is all the rage these days, so you never know

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      02-12-2020 02:41 PM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by EverthingIsTerrible View Post
      But will there be a Westphalia version?!
      There is a market for that product in Europe, and given that all the ID Buzz will be coming from the same factory, that should increase the chance that we get a Westfalia / Weekender version. With Mercedes now offering the Metris in a pop-up top version at low volumes (only 100 Metris Weekender for the US planned), there must be a way to affordably comply with NHTSA requirements regarding the top, so I'm optimistic we'll receive an ID Buzz Westfalia.

      U.S. Metris Weekender on the Mercedes stand at the 2020 Chicago Auto Show:



      “Pop-up campers are iconic and highly functional vehicles,” said Robert Veit, managing director of Mercedes-Benz USA Vans. “We have known for a long time that this market need was unmet as evidenced by the high demand for aging existing camper vans still on the road.”
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      02-12-2020 02:44 PM #6
      So it's a VAN built in EUROpe? Hmm, I wonder if VW ever had a product like that before for sale in the US? Perhaps that could help inspire a name.

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      02-12-2020 02:46 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by masa8888 View Post
      Outdoor lifestyle is all the rage these days, so you never know
      That's because no one under 35 can afford homes.

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      02-12-2020 02:48 PM #8
      Oh reaaaallllyy!

      Won’t lie, this has my attention..

      But no deNyschennian names here, please. Microbus, yes, BD-e, no.
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      02-12-2020 02:50 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by 2 doors View Post
      So it's a VAN built in EUROpe? Hmm, I wonder if VW ever had a product like that before for sale in the US? Perhaps that could help inspire a name.
      People remember "VW Bus" or "Microbus". Only car guys of a certain age remember the comparatively short-lived Eurovan. This is definitely not styled like one either,


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      02-12-2020 02:55 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by 2 doors View Post
      So it's a VAN built in EUROpe? Hmm, I wonder if VW ever had a product like that before for sale in the US? Perhaps that could help inspire a name.
      Stop trying to make people remember the Eurovan. Nobody wants to remember the Eurovan.

    12. 02-12-2020 03:00 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by NotFast View Post
      That's because no one under 35 who acts like a millennial and eats out every night can afford homes.
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      02-12-2020 03:07 PM #12
      A "please bring it to America, VW" VW going into production in 2022?

      Alright people, that's ample lead time to come up with reasons not to buy it, so I want to see some creativity here.
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      02-12-2020 03:07 PM #13
      As a 35 year old who does not eat out every day, and has a 'home', I am very interested in an EV Microbus... would be cool to get back into a VW with that.
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      02-12-2020 03:17 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by r_fostoria View Post
      Stop trying to make people remember the Eurovan. Nobody wants to remember the Eurovan.
      Best quote of the day.

    16. 02-12-2020 03:25 PM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by r_fostoria View Post
      Stop trying to make people remember the Eurovan. Nobody wants to remember the Eurovan.
      I remember a lot of leaky VR6 water pumps...

    17. 02-12-2020 03:37 PM #16
      I saw these all over New Zealand, and my sister owns the non-camper Multivan version in Australia....we need these in Canada!


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      02-12-2020 03:42 PM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by 2 doors View Post
      So it's a VAN built in EUROpe? Hmm, I wonder if VW ever had a product like that before for sale in the US? Perhaps that could help inspire a name.
      They can even call this the e-UROVAN
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      02-12-2020 03:56 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by VarianceVQ View Post
      A "please bring it to America, VW" VW going into production in 2022?

      Alright people, that's ample lead time to come up with reasons not to buy it, so I want to see some creativity here.
      JDN ruined Cadillac by trying to get the brand to focus on better interiors and enthusiast-oriented ride and handling.
      He also changed Infiniti's generic alphanumeric names into equally generic alphanumeric names.
      He can't be trusted, so I won't buy the ID.Buzz.

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      02-12-2020 04:17 PM #19
      it will be a low-volume niche vehicle
      AKA seventy-five-thousand dollar electric van for Boomers.

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      02-12-2020 04:28 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by MylesPH1 View Post
      Oh reaaaallllyy!

      Won’t lie, this has my attention..

      But no deNyschennian names here, please. Microbus, yes, BD-e, no.
      Too late. Jetta is being renamed J30, Passat will be P50, Tiguan is JX30, Taigun is JX20, etc. Is anyone really going to miss Tiguan, Taigun, Tharu, ID Buzz, etc?
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      02-12-2020 04:32 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Wimbledon View Post
      Too late. Jetta is being renamed J30, Passat will be P50, Tiguan is JX30, Taigun is JX20, etc. Is anyone really going to miss Tiguan, Taigun, Tharu, ID Buzz, etc?
      I heard the mk8 Jetta GLI is just going to be the J30-V Sport
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      02-12-2020 05:12 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
      People remember "VW Bus" or "Microbus". Only car guys of a certain age remember the comparatively short-lived Eurovan.
      Quote Originally Posted by r_fostoria View Post
      Stop trying to make people remember the Eurovan. Nobody wants to remember the Eurovan.
      A neighbor a few doors down has one parked in their driveway. I'm not sure I've seen it move in the 16 years I've lived here. I can't forget the Eurovan because I drive by one at least twice a day.



      Quote Originally Posted by IdontOwnAVW View Post
      They can even call this the e-UROVAN
      YES! I'll get one to go with my e-Golf!

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      02-12-2020 05:27 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by 2000JettaGLXVR6 View Post
      AKA seventy-five-thousand dollar electric van for Boomers.
      I'm thinking about $45k to start. Not cheap, but not insurmountable for the target audience, either.


      Also, I wish they wouldn't force "ID" onto all of the names. It's juvenile.

      "Microbus" or if we're saddled with "ID" everything, just call it the ID Microbus.
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      02-12-2020 05:53 PM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      I'm thinking about $45k to start. Not cheap, but not insurmountable for the target audience, either.
      I would consider $45k cheap and obtainable. I'm not getting my hopes up.

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      02-12-2020 05:53 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Motor Trend View Post
      The I.D. Buzz concept has been around for a while.
      No kidding, it even looks dated to me

      Quote Originally Posted by Motor Trend View Post
      Hence, that name still sticks.
      No, it doesn't. Such a stupid name, even for a concept. Only slightly better than iBus
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