Yeah, My wife had an 07 Passat with the Sport package (18" wheels, 6 Speed w real leather sport seats) we bought brand new. She loved it (especially the sport seats and tan interior) but it was an oil burner from the start and getting tired (160K) plus the fenders had started rusting. I thought about rebuilding or swapping the engine and replacing the fenders but thought it wasn't worth it (big mistake). We traded it in (only $1500) a few years ago and bought her a 2014 Audi A4 with a 6 Speed and Sport seats but because buying used you are limited as far as interior and colors go we were able to get white but chose a Black / Brown interior. While it's nice the darker interior makes the car seem much smaller and the Climate Control sucks ass. The VW Climatronic was so easy and simple to use (3 Dials). She is used to it now but every time I drive it I am glad I didn't buy an Audi. I now have a MK6 2 dorr R that I bought 2 years ago because I didn't want a 4 door. Looking at the MK8 R I may end up getting a used MK7 or 7.5 in a few years because the 8 doesn't do much for me. At least VW hasn't go the way of most other manufacturers and plop the nav screen on top of the dash like a Tom-Tom from days gone by. I love some other brands as far as Exterior looks go (BMW, Mazda) but having to look at that screen every time I get in is a No Go. Even the newer A4s did that but it looks as though the newer ones are starting to go back to having it integrated into the dash. I have to say the biggest one that disappoints me is the Mercedes. It looks almost as bad as a Tesla or the newer EV cars that have a giant tablet sticking out.
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Doesn't Hyundai have the parking feature where you aren't even in your car? Thats a lot of risk/liability to take on. At least if I am in the car I have the option to put my foot on the brake or control the steering wheel.
I think the technology is constantly evolving and getting better and better. As I mentioned in a previous post, we have a Volvo which is all touchscreen minus a volume knob. In the beginning it was a little cumbersome, but we quickly adapted. I think that is the problem with all these quick reviews, people are running into. They are not spending enough time with it to learn the system and adapt. The amount of vehicles that this is going to apply to, I have to imagine that VW did some thorough testing and decision making before bringing it out to to the public. I mean I would think a simple knob is going to be cheaper to make then a touch slider and the coding that would have to go into it, but maybe I am wrong.
Again back to the touchscreen, how often are you really adjusting things? I set the temp and if its auto, it does its own thing. VW said it was going to be a car that is connected. So maybe it has remote start to allow you to warm/cool the car before you get there. For music, personally, I set myself up with Spotify, or whatever is on my phone that I want to listen to, and will adjust via the wheel controls once I am moving. I don't see the general public fussing around that much once they are driving.
Touch screens have nothing to do with technology, we simply see more of them now for the following reasons:
(same for gauge clusters)
1) Cheaper than actually providing hard switch gear/dials. If manufactures could put power windows, mirrors, wipers, door locks in them - they would - and might lobby just that.
2) Getting ready for all electric - less physical wiring, less current/voltage used, less wiring complexity.
(above same for the shifter to shaver junk)
3) Average Joe perceives touch screens as "high-tech" no matter if they are user friendly or not,....and fall for them. It's the kewl tappy, touchy, swipey picture thingies syndrome.....
Most younger drivers grew up on touch screens - buttons are alien to them
It's certainly NOT safer,....I can adjust many things now (mainly AC) without taking my eyes off the road and a volume knob is still worth its weight in gold.
The 7/7.5 was really a good mix of buttons and screens - optimum IMO, very good looking, integrated and functional.
Like most I may go look at a v8 R, but the rest of it will have to be fantastic to overlook the other shortcomings.
You do have a point. Touch screens do not equate to something being high tech. However, many manufacturers are quickly getting rid of physical controls moving them into infotainment displays. For me, it's not something I mind. I'm all for it. It clears up clutter and makes the interior feel much cleaner. I don't understand people getting so worked up over touchscreens.
When I'm driving I'm not fiddling with the AC for the majority of the ride. I set my temp at the beginning and I'm on my way. Although I really don't even find it hard to adjust the temp, fan speed or zone while on the move in the XC90. It's not difficult the controls are big.
I'm not crazy about the exterior looks of the new mk8 but love the interior. It's got me considering the GTI for my next car.
I may consider a MkVIII Golf R for my next car provided it comes with a 6 or 7spd MT... If not, I'll probably go for a Tesla Model 3 Performance, but at least I'm not totally turned off by the "Infotainment Screen" controls now.
Unfortunately, touch screens will soon be state-of-the-art and ubiquitous. See, for example, the forthcoming Mercedes S class (at 6:50 et seq). Not a knob in sight. https://www.motor1.com/news/441999/2...-benz-s-class/
I don't think people would have as big of a problem with the touchscreens, as long as the menu's or getting to certain controls are easily accessible. The few video's I have seen, the journalists all complain that to get to something, its one or two layers deep in the system. I know VW has said that you are supposed to use voice command, but Siri doesn't always get things correct, and that's with a virtual assistant that has had 9 years of learning.
just infuriating to me. Things I can do now without taking my eyes off the road by simple touch,....and yes, I adjust them often.
I remember when Korean cars were first in the USA. They had big news stories about brand new Korean cars having brake failures on hills etc. I never forgot this and refused/refuse to accept a Korean rental car. Well I’m glad a did because there was a recent recall for modern Korean cars for none other than Brake Line Failures!!!
Upping their game my arsch.
Hyundai/Khia brake failure on tv news. Back then articles were printed in newspapers.
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