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      07-31-2020 10:04 PM #51
      https://fordauthority.com/2020/07/up...of-camouflage/

      Article says it is wearing a fake butt to make it look bigger. Probably true... you can see about 7 or 8" of fake camo after the exhaust tip.






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      07-31-2020 11:11 PM #52
      it better be aluminum. F150 is the only truck I'd remotely consider since I live in the salt belt. Everything rots out in less than 10 years.

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      08-01-2020 05:33 PM #53
      Quote Originally Posted by ADDvanced View Post
      it better be aluminum. F150 is the only truck I'd remotely consider since I live in the salt belt. Everything rots out in less than 10 years.
      Two things:

      First, the F-series still uses a steel frame
      Second, I have some knowledge that all Ford products launched after ~2018 have improved corrosion protection compared with their earlier standard. This extends down to suppliers, so hopefully rusty subframes will be a thing of the past.

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      08-01-2020 06:40 PM #54
      Quote Originally Posted by Unilateral Phase Detractor View Post
      Two things:

      First, the F-series still uses a steel frame
      Second, I have some knowledge that all Ford products launched after ~2018 have improved corrosion protection compared with their earlier standard. This extends down to suppliers, so hopefully rusty subframes will be a thing of the past.
      Correct, it does! The undercoating on their newer vehicles looks stellar though, as you said. It will be nice though, having a truck for 10 years up north and still having wheel arches lol.

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      08-01-2020 08:12 PM #55
      "small"

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      08-01-2020 08:56 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      "small"

      Agreed. Are we sure that’s the sub-Ranger thing? It looks pretty big.

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      08-02-2020 12:45 AM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by 2 doors View Post
      Agreed. Are we sure that’s the sub-Ranger thing? It looks pretty big.
      This should theoretically be a Bronco Sport with a bed.
      I’m not sure if it’s significantly shorter than a Ranger, but it looks
      to have a lower ride height and overall height.

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      08-02-2020 01:28 AM #58
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      This should theoretically be a Bronco Sport with a bed.
      I’m not sure if it’s significantly shorter than a Ranger, but it looks
      to have a lower ride height and overall height.
      Let’s not forget that the next Ranger will likely grow, too.
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      08-02-2020 12:04 PM #59
      Honda deserves a lot of credit for “popularizing” the integrated bed/body pick-up truck in America.
      The Ridgeline is controversial and not a big seller, but I think it successfully tested the waters, for other manufacturers, for trucks of this configuration. We’ll soon have integrated body/bed trucks from Hummer, Tesla, Hyundai, Rivian, Bollinger, and this Ford Maverick. The FWD car based pick-up seems like the logical next evolution of the CUV genre, so it’s likely we’ll see many other brands field offerings in this body construction type, especially if the Maverick is successful.

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      08-02-2020 12:42 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by whitejeep1989 View Post
      Honda deserves a lot of credit for “popularizing” the integrated bed/body pick-up truck in America.
      The Ridgeline is controversial and not a big seller, but I think it successfully tested the waters, for other manufacturers, for trucks of this configuration. We’ll soon have integrated body/bed trucks from Hummer, Tesla, Hyundai, Rivian, Bollinger, and this Ford Maverick. The FWD car based pick-up seems like the logical next evolution of the CUV genre, so it’s likely we’ll see many other brands field offerings in this body construction type, especially if the Maverick is successful.
      Honda was not unique at the time it debuted. It’s contemporaries included the Baja, Avalanche, and Explorer SportTrac. Not to mention Hummer H2 SUT. SportTrack had a separate bed but it was still a pickup based off an SUV. Also I’d bet GM sold a lot more EscaLanches than Honda sold Ridgelines.

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      08-02-2020 01:26 PM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by 2 doors View Post
      Honda was not unique at the time it debuted. It’s contemporaries included the Baja, Avalanche, and Explorer SportTrac. Not to mention Hummer H2 SUT. SportTrack had a separate bed but it was still a pickup based off an SUV. Also I’d bet GM sold a lot more EscaLanches than Honda sold Ridgelines.
      The Ridgeline was the first serious contender based on a front wheel drive platform.
      That is true regardless of what else came before it.
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      08-02-2020 05:12 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by BRealistic View Post
      The Ridgeline was the first serious contender based on a front wheel drive platform.
      That is true regardless of what else came before it.
      I was referring to WJ’s statement about integrated cab and bed, not drivetrain layout.

      And calling the Ridgeline a “serious contender” is a huge stretch. It was barely an also-ran.

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      08-02-2020 05:18 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by 2 doors View Post
      I was referring to WJ’s statement about integrated cab and bed, not drivetrain layout.

      And calling the Ridgeline a “serious contender” is a huge stretch. It was barely an also-ran.
      Yeah, that is different.
      But also required if not a traditional front engine rear drive based BOF truck.
      As far as also ran.. more of a niche truck than an also ran.
      It's also the only truck still around (of those you listed) and selling decently now.
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      08-02-2020 07:34 PM #64
      Ironically, the second gen Ridgeline is selling well because it now looks more like a traditional truck. They even took pains to make the bed look separate. The other vehicles I mentioned served their purpose as a gateway for Americans to crew cab super short bed pickups. Ford and GM aren’t missing anything by no longer have the Avalanche and SportTrack in their lineups. The Baja was a niche.

      The conclusion we must then draw is that Americans hate the unibody pickup look.

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      08-03-2020 01:17 PM #65
      Quote Originally Posted by 2 doors View Post
      Agreed. Are we sure that’s the sub-Ranger thing? It looks pretty big.
      It has a lot of fake camo behind the rear axle to confuse you See the location of the muffler behind the rear axle to get a true sense of the length.

      It should be about the same size as LWB Transit Connect. Maybe a few inches longer.




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      08-03-2020 03:40 PM #66
      Hmmmm...

      Remember what everyone thought was the next Ranger?



      I wonder...

      It's not the same truck—the leaked photo is definitely a midsize because the proportions are nearly dead-on with Ranger/Canyon/Colorado. But the styling cues of the leaked truck (headlamps, hood/fender intersection, semi-box flare fenders) appear like they are under the camo.
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