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    1. Member Mr Miyagi's Avatar
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      03-17-2020 07:49 PM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Pnuu View Post
      I absolutely LOVE the idea of these cars, and I drove a handful with the intention of eventually buying one, but the reality convinced me otherwise. This applies to the Coupe Quattro/URS4/URS6 cars pretty equally.

      You'll definitely want to increase your network of parts connections and sources. There are so many obscure parts on these cars and they are only getting rarer as time goes on. If you have the space, and the opportunity arises, pick up a parts car.

      The 20vT is flat out glorious, and not too mechanically terrible to work on IMO, and the rest of the drivetrain is pretty stout.

      Electronics are probably the killer here. There was so much early 90s tech crammed into these cars which hasn't aged well. If you're not wiring and electrical troubleshooting savvy, start learning. Invest in a good multimeter with dwell/duty cycle for testing sensors.

      It's good that you're approaching this as a project car, but when it's driving at 100% it will be such a fun car.
      Absolutely! I do plan on learning a ton with this car. There is a lot to do, including an eventual engine swap/trans swap. Luckily, this particular purchase is going to come with about half a car or more worth of spare parts.

      The electrics definitely worry me, and there are some bugs with this particular car, such as a misfire. I'll dig into it when the thing arrives, but it's running into some delays in shipping!

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      My only input is that my friend has one and it's awesome
      That's pretty rad. Do you know anything about that front bumper he's got on it? Not really my style, but looks pretty cool. Less is definitely more with these cars -- not much to do to make them look great imo!

      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      Congrats on the purchase! Since I've seen it in person, I'm looking forward to watching the progress.

      Some inspiration for you. This one was on the rally I just did and it was really nice.

      Can't wait to post detailed pics and an update when it arrives. Thanks so much for checking it out for me! I owe you big time!

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      03-17-2020 07:53 PM #28
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      Can't wait to post detailed pics and an update when it arrives. Thanks so much for checking it out for me! I owe you big time!
      Happy to help another car guy out. It’s a project for sure, but you seem like you got a good grasp of what it’s asking of you. Looking forward to more!
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      03-17-2020 08:14 PM #29
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      That's pretty rad. Do you know anything about that front bumper he's got on it? Not really my style, but looks pretty cool. Less is definitely more with these cars -- not much to do to make them look great imo!
      Old school LLTEK bumper!

      You can find some more pics and info on his IG. It's got a nice GTX3071R on it too

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      03-17-2020 08:18 PM #30
      Been there done that, had my 95 UrS6 between 2008 and 2012, sold it at over 300K kms.

      A few notes:
      The car was dead reliable, I was only let down by an aging battery. My car had an MRC tune, Big Red 993 front calipers with Euro D2 A8 rotors, 1.8T coilpack conversion and H&R springs/Bilstein shocks. 2008 is when I got into outside sales and the S6 was my only vehicle. Took me everywhere in comfort, safety and did it fairly quickly. At one point I deleted the resonator because I did not want to replace the exhaust, which made the I5 song a bit more pronounced. I did teach my wife to drive standard in this car.

      The not so good was the fuel mileage. Definitely not a TDI, especially under boost. Also the North American 95 and older 5 speed cars came with a weak 1st gear, on my car it was really loud (semi truck loud) but although I bought a spare 96 wide 1st gear transmission, I never had to replace it and sold the car with the loud one. The headlights were not the greatest, but because they come with factory projectors I did a HID retrofit for the low beams (4300K) and that fixed things nicely.



      It is a car that I really enjoyed, I would like to build a high HP 20v turbo I5 Audi once day.

      BTW, back in those days it was Quattroworld and Audiworld forums that were my go to sources for everything UrS.

      OP, I am sure you will enjoy the car and check the Easter eggs in the climate ctrl unit Post some pics once you get the car.

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      04-09-2020 08:14 PM #31
      Big post incoming!

      So the car arrived last Thursday. I've been so busy with work and life that I didn't find time to get this stuff done until now.

      First things first, pics!

      "The Packening"


      Pretty clean when it left.


      Fully loaded up... there was actually room for a bit more but it was pretty close to laying frame. Seller was kind enough to put a very nice blanket on the rear hatch.


      On the back of the trailer. It's so purty! If it weren't for all the chrome on newer cars, I'd say it aged nicely! Thanks to the seller for getting this pic for me.

      Arrival!


      Check the squat




      Absolutely filthy. Needs a wash.


      The eagle eyed will have noticed something. More on that later.


      wet

      wet

      dry

      dry

      Body/Interior issues

      Well, it's not perfect. Far from it. That's why it was the price that it was.


      Remember what I said about the eagle-eyed among us?

      https://i.imgur.com/dOPijsm.jpg

      uhhhh, yeah. Okay then.

      https://i.imgur.com/wZG02Ap.jpg

      BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!






      Some extras in the background


      Right side is okay...


      Harumph.


      Interior is pretty nice in places.


      Tiny stain on the alcantara, but that can be fixed





      Under the passenger side dash. Yeesh. This will be fun. At least the covers are all included.


      A bumpin system probably existed in it once. Maybe i'll give GAS a call.


      If anyone knows anything about stock cars and wiring, you'll notice everything wrong with this.


      This was unplugged. The green one is accounted for, but can you guess what the red wire is? (The green plug is for aftermarket seat heaters...)



      Apparently the colored tubes here are vacuum tubes for the door locks. I'm dubious of whether or not they work.


      This was soaking wet. Nothing around it was wet, just this. No idea why. It seems to go to the seat backs maybe?



      INTERNALS
      So, turns out the engine is not stock like I thought. I bought the car sight-unseen, but the listing didn't really say exactly what it had done to it. I knew it was modified, but I didn't know it was essentially a fully built motor, with all the bells and whistles.



      She's gonna be some work.

      That's not a stock intake manifold.


      I don't think this was supposed to be unplugged (the left one). I plugged it back in. It's just a ground wire, but still.



      Very expensive silicon intake manifold piece



      This is probably the worst spot on the entire car as far as rusting goes. Also, anyone else think that O2 sensor is a lil bit close to the turbo exhaust housing?


      Coil delete! You can see the gray wire there on the right that was unplugged down lower. I'll find out what that is eventually I'm sure.


      Garrett GT3071R.



      Aftermarket fuel rail?


      Coilpack delete seen here, again. I'll have to get the coil cover on there somehow, because that's urgly.


      Definitely not a fan of this diverter valve and diverter valve housing. Pretty rusty, but IIRC the manifold is an RS2 manifold so I'll be saving that.




      Closer view of the intake manifold silicon


      More turbo. It's only now that I am realizing that hose clamp is loose.


      Behold, the underside. This is the bottom view of that crazy S downpipe. It's made by a guy named Tim Valencia who is apparently a racecar driver.





      Current Pros:

      • i5 turbo
      • Audi s6 avant
      • no rust on the body
      • two motors, 2 transmissions
      • heavily modified engine, rumored to be making 450 hp at full strength
      • a decent amount of extra parts/trim



      Current Cons:

      • Driver door doesn't open from the inside
      • Door locks not functioning
      • Tons of random wiring/splices everywhere for no reason
      • heavily modified engine in a 25 year old car
      • parts are getting more scarce
      • hood latch is finicky (doesn't open)
      • Brakes don't work
      • O2 sensor needs replacing
      • has a misfire
      • much is unknown about this car
      • holes in the fenders

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      04-09-2020 09:43 PM #32
      Good luck with the Avant!

      I really enjoyed owning and driving mine, but sold it Jan 2012 when I found a D2 S8 that I had to have. Mine was stock with the exception of an MRC stage 2 tune, stiffer wastegate spring, and a set of European market OEM springs that I imported. To this day, it's the only car I've sold for more than I paid. That trend definitely didn't continue when I got rid of the S8.

      Most of the technical knowledge was over on the Quattroworld UrS forums when I owned mine, that's where I'd head if you need guru level tech help. Good luck and keep up posted on the progress.

      Pictures of mine.








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      04-10-2020 08:18 AM #34
      Watching with much interest.

      And holy cow aging_fleet's car was clean.

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      04-10-2020 08:43 AM #35
      Looks like you have some work ahead of you.

      Looking forward to seeing the progress!
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      04-10-2020 09:34 AM #36
      Good luck, those are really cool oddball cars. Do you have the 5 speed or late 01E 6speed?
      It couldn't hurt to track down a donor car for a full stock harness. Try to track down Shokan for used parts, they were one of the best Audi dismantlers and had a good number of UR cars and parts in inventory.

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      04-10-2020 09:59 AM #37
      Quote Originally Posted by aging_fleet View Post
      To this day, it's the only car I've sold for more than I paid. That trend definitely didn't continue when I got rid of the S8.
      It's possible to make some money selling a car??



      I have bought a $2k car, dumped $10k into it and sold it for $4k on more than one occasion.

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      04-10-2020 10:05 AM #38
      Also, send this guy a message if you need parts. He's got a couple hundred cars in a junkyard and probably half of them are old Audis.

      https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/p...098091211.html

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      04-10-2020 10:11 AM #39
      good on you
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      04-10-2020 10:21 AM #40
      Quote Originally Posted by StressStrain View Post
      And holy cow aging_fleet's car was clean.
      Thanks, it spent a lot of it's life at vacation homes in New Mexico and Colorado and was ultimately traded in by the original owner at Plaza Motors in STL with only 70k miles. I put a deposit on it based on an Autotrader listing with no photos, booked a flight to Missouri and hoped for the best. There was a lot of deferred maintenance to be done, but overall it was a great starting point.

      Quote Originally Posted by Stromaluski View Post
      I have bought a $2k car, dumped $10k into it and sold it for $4k on more than one occasion.
      I'm sure with the mods and maintenance, I didn't come out on top.

      @Mr Miyagi, keep those photos coming.

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      04-10-2020 10:26 AM #41
      wow someone did some work to that thing!

      looks like youre gonna be busy unfcking that wiring though. so much sketch ****... yikes.
      but at least its a good solid start.


      whats the story on the weird fender cuts?

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      subscribing to this. Good Luck

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      04-10-2020 10:36 AM #43
      If you ever put the rear seat bottom in, please cover the positive post. You don't want the rear seat springs touching that terminal, arcing and causing a fire.

      Seats have been redone at some point. Looks like a color swap (door panels, seats, carpet) for the interior too. Can't tell if the seat belts are gray or tan, that was the original color of the interior, including carpet.
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      04-10-2020 10:48 AM #44
      Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
      If you ever put the rear seat bottom in, please cover the positive post. You don't want the rear seat springs touching that terminal, arcing and causing a fire.
      Spoken like somebody that has owned an aircooled beetle at some point.

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      04-10-2020 11:09 AM #45
      Very nice purchase,I love old Audis,too. There is a guy on YouTube with a channel called "Broken Quattros" -- (iirc,he's a member on here) --might want to check it out for info on parts interchangeability between different models/years since stuff is becoming so scarce with these cars. Good luck and have fun with it
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      04-10-2020 12:17 PM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by aging_fleet View Post
      Good luck with the Avant!

      I really enjoyed owning and driving mine, but sold it Jan 2012 when I found a D2 S8 that I had to have. Mine was stock with the exception of an MRC stage 2 tune, stiffer wastegate spring, and a set of European market OEM springs that I imported. To this day, it's the only car I've sold for more than I paid. That trend definitely didn't continue when I got rid of the S8.

      Most of the technical knowledge was over on the Quattroworld UrS forums when I owned mine, that's where I'd head if you need guru level tech help. Good luck and keep up posted on the progress.

      Pictures of mine.
      Uhhhhhhhhh, that's the cleanest one I think I've ever seen. What??? Beautiful. Would love to hear more about it.

      Quote Originally Posted by Baltimoron View Post
      Good luck, those are really cool oddball cars. Do you have the 5 speed or late 01E 6speed?
      It couldn't hurt to track down a donor car for a full stock harness. Try to track down Shokan for used parts, they were one of the best Audi dismantlers and had a good number of UR cars and parts in inventory.
      I was in the process of buying a copart parts car this Monday, but it ended up going for $3,000 and I just lost a lot of money in the stock market so decided against it . I've definitely considered it, though. I've already spent a bunch of parts and i've only bought a few tiny things.

      Quote Originally Posted by Stromaluski View Post
      Also, send this guy a message if you need parts. He's got a couple hundred cars in a junkyard and probably half of them are old Audis.

      https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/p...098091211.html
      Thank you, muchly! I need a few parts for sure.

      Quote Originally Posted by ValveCoverGasket View Post
      wow someone did some work to that thing!

      looks like youre gonna be busy unfcking that wiring though. so much sketch ****... yikes.
      but at least its a good solid start.


      whats the story on the weird fender cuts?
      So, someone definitely did some work on it. I'm not sure how many owners have had it or the full history. Still working on that from PO. He's been extremely accommodating and a great help so far! The PO is a long-time racer in California. Does Lemons and some other series down there. Has worked heavily with 2Bennett and according to him, this car was used by 034 Motorsport for their tune development. Whether true or not, I'm not sure. I might reach out to 034 to confirm. Someone spent a LOT of money on this thing. I'll list everything done to it when I find out everything that's been done to it... Basically everything has been touched.

      As for the wiring -- yeah, that scares me. It's definitely the biggest scare for me. As SoldOverSticker told me from when he checked it out for me, it's got great project car potential provided someone has the time and desire to fix it. The big issues for me are the electrics -- mechanically it is pretty sound. The issue here is that it is a 1995 Audi with electric problems from a time where they were 10 years ahead of the game in their technology, so everything is complicated. Add on to that the aftermarket bull**** in there, it's going to be interesting. I think I might just start simple and remove the speaker wiring.

      Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
      If you ever put the rear seat bottom in, please cover the positive post. You don't want the rear seat springs touching that terminal, arcing and causing a fire.

      Seats have been redone at some point. Looks like a color swap (door panels, seats, carpet) for the interior too. Can't tell if the seat belts are gray or tan, that was the original color of the interior, including carpet.
      I actually took the back seat out to get to the battery and fuel tank as I am going to be replacing the sending unit here soon. It has two different rear seats -- the stock one (all leather) and the re-upholstered one to match the interior. One of them has seat heaters in it that connects up to the green cables there. I'll definitely look into getting a cover, thanks for the tip! Do you have any recommendations on that front?

      Quote Originally Posted by gruppe-b View Post
      Very nice purchase,I love old Audis,too. There is a guy on YouTube with a channel called "Broken Quattros" -- (iirc,he's a member on here) --might want to check it out for info on parts interchangeability between different models/years since stuff is becoming so scarce with these cars. Good luck and have fun with it
      I've watched a lot of Broken Quattro's content! Cool guy. I've also been watching Brian Scotto's content, as well as Total Technik and a guy named "quattro4life" who makes pretty great content too. Bizarre accent, too!

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      04-10-2020 12:26 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Miyagi View Post
      So, someone definitely did some work on it. I'm not sure how many owners have had it or the full history. Still working on that from PO. He's been extremely accommodating and a great help so far! The PO is a long-time racer in California. Does Lemons and some other series down there. Has worked heavily with 2Bennett and according to him, this car was used by 034 Motorsport for their tune development. Whether true or not, I'm not sure. I might reach out to 034 to confirm. Someone spent a LOT of money on this thing. I'll list everything done to it when I find out everything that's been done to it... Basically everything has been touched.

      As for the wiring -- yeah, that scares me. It's definitely the biggest scare for me. As SoldOverSticker told me from when he checked it out for me, it's got great project car potential provided someone has the time and desire to fix it. The big issues for me are the electrics -- mechanically it is pretty sound. The issue here is that it is a 1995 Audi with electric problems from a time where they were 10 years ahead of the game in their technology, so everything is complicated. Add on to that the aftermarket bull**** in there, it's going to be interesting. I think I might just start simple and remove the speaker wiring.
      if you can find/post wiring diagrams i can help armchair quarterback what to poke at

      wirings really easy if you know what each wire i supposed to be doing

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      04-10-2020 01:06 PM #48
      For a terminal cover just get anything, rubber or plastic to cover the terminal. It looks like your battery should have had a cover similiar to this:




      You can see the holes on your battery where those pins should go into.

      I would also ask around on Quattroworld, someone might know the car.

      If you get the itch to mod the exhaust: Stromung sounds good to me.

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      04-10-2020 01:28 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
      For a terminal cover just get anything, rubber or plastic to cover the terminal. It looks like your battery should have had a cover similiar to this:




      You can see the holes on your battery where those pins should go into.

      I would also ask around on Quattroworld, someone might know the car.

      If you get the itch to mod the exhaust: Stromung sounds good to me.

      http://www.stromungexhaust.com/92-95...r-quattro.html
      It has that exhaust on it (allegedly). Magnaflow muffler, though.

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      You wanted a project...

      You definitely got a project.
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