Basically: Avoid places where people insist on buying their heads in the sand, and that draw people from *other* places that also share that mentality. I'd rather be somewhere folks are taking it seriously.
Unfortunately the report yesterday was it was in 19 nursing homes in Florida It's not necessarily the spring breakers' fault, but, again, folks who take it seriously vs don't.... they're closing down Clearwater beach... but not till Monday, once they've extracted them tourist dollars.
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If you ride the bay trail up through Foster City, wave as you ride by. I’ve set up camp on my back patio.
Originally Posted by LA Times
Thanks for this - that pic is hilarious. I have largely been avoiding news besides the official press briefing. Trying to avoid the insanity that is the media - social and mainstream.
I'm not trying to be selfish, maybe my words were strong. I just have a big issue with how this is all being framed. Do we need to confine the majority of the population to their homes to prevent the spread? Sure, that's a reasonable approach. At the same time, the expectation that every person is going to stay in their homes for the next month or longer, with no pleasure activities besides going for a walk - that's unrealistic imo.
The irony of the "essential travel" we are talking about is people going to places where lots of people, potentially infected, touch everything and constantly break "social distancing." Supermarkets, Costco, hardware stores, any of the stores currently open now - they are all potential infection super-centers. We allow this under shelter-in-place because its "necessary," that doesn't make it logical. I bought my food for the next month in one stop, on the first day, because I know going to the store even one more time than I have to is contributing to the problem. I realize this doesn't work for everyone - I only have myself to care for.
I say all this to say: my hour long drive in the canyons, in all reasonable likeihood, is not endangering anyone. The walk to the Amazon Hub at my apartment complex where we have to put in a code on a keypad to retrieve our packages (read: delivery place for non-perishable consumables) is infinitely more dangerous to public health than my drive.
Sorry - just because the government says some good things doesn't mean all the things its says are good or "logical," if we want to talk about logic.
Stay safe, health, and sane everyone!
^ You're either not thinking of the potential outcomes, or if you have, you feel they are statistically too low to impact your decision making. See above for references to scenarios where you get into a accident during your non-essential drive. Say a deer runs out in front of you, or something else that's outside of your control. That will force a team to come out and assist you, and if you're badly hurt, a team at hospital that can any day become inundated with cases of COVID-19. Is that a far fetched scenario? It may sound like it, but that would have been true for Italy the day before as well.
My fear here is that by doing all the right things and avoiding the unfortunate circumstances in Italy, we're going to have the "see, it was nothing, we over-reacted" folks coming out, which would make something similar in the future even harder to deal with.
I hope we contain it and that we limit the impact as much as possible. I understand and share your need to get out and do something pleasurable. You're not wrong in desiring that. But before you decide to go out for a canyon drive, I just ask that you think of some worst case scenarios, and take them into consideration.
I'm curious what the likelihood of true accidents requiring medical attention in the average single family home compare to the likelihood of a single vehicle accident requiring medical attention. We're just getting in the weeds of what is possible - an infinite journey of what ifs. I acknowledge that anything can happen. Guess what, anything can happen anywhere - it would be really unfortunate if something unplanned happened to anyone, whether that's an in-home accident while sheltering-in-place or an accident out on a road. I don't think what your getting at is any more or less likely to happen that any event requiring medical attention that could happen inside my residence, your residence, or any other residence. You know what else I bet is happening all over the country? People getting drunk and doing stupid **** in their house. I'm not being negligent by driving my car, alone. Sorry.
I hear you, and I am thinking about it, and I get it. Its just not the way I live my life - I'm not going to be scared of remote consequences if they are not directly related to the impact of spreading the virus. That might sound selfish on the face of it, but it is realistic.
Sure, I can trip down the stairs at home, and let's assume that's as likely as hitting a dear in the canyon. But going out for a canyon drive might encourage others to do the same, perhaps those who haven't given it as much considering as you have, and potentially by those who may not be as cautious.
I'm just not ready to turn this pandemic into paranoia which is a short slippery slope to pandemonium. This can get a whole lot worse and the only thing stopping it is people keeping their heads focused on the facts and the realities.
I hope you, your family, and everyone stays safe and healthy
Good discussion here; I see both sides of the spectrum between going out for a drive and staying put completely.
Depends on how long this virus thing goes, I will have to take my car out for spin sometime; where I have it parked there's no facilities to install a battery tender.
I also have some smoked salmon leftover...
I probably have enough charcoal to do two more longgg smokes (brisket took 14 hours)...
But the San Rafael farmers market appears to be operating, and the grocery store near me was pretty well stocked...