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      03-20-2020 09:40 AM #1
      It's the First Friday of the Apocalypse and I want to talk about cars, not zombie prep, so here goes...

      Did you know that Nissan is working on an all-new replacement for the 300Z? I've collected some snippets below.

      Discuss!

      Trademark for retro-inspired Nissan Z logo surfaces

      Nissan is working on a new generation of its Z sports car. The first test mules surfaced late last year which points to a market arrival in late 2021 or early the following year.

      We possibly now have our first look at the new Z logo that will feature on the car.

      Nissan filed for trademark protection of this stylized “Z” with several intellectual property registries around the globe, including Canada. A filing with the Canadian Intellectual Property Office was made on March 12, as first discovered by New Nissan Z forum.



      Alongside the new Z logo, Nissan filed trademark protection for a revised version of its own logo. The new logo takes on a more minimalist look whose flat design is also better suited for digital materials.

      Next-generation Nissan Z reportedly has 400 hp, retro design

      The current Nissan 370Z made its debut for the 2009 model year. It's the definition of long in the tooth. Sounds like that's about to change.

      On Thursday, AutoBlog reported dealer sources who saw the car at dealer meeting said work is underway at Nissan on the next-generation Z car, and it will reportedly be powered by a turbocharged V-6 and feature a retro design.

      The car shown at a dealer meeting apparently has an overall shape similar to the current Z, but its new design cherry picks from the legendary sports car's past. The front is said to feature round headlights and a square grille that both recall the original 240Z, while the rear features taillights inspired by the Z32 300ZX, which would make them horizontal.

      Inside, the current Z can only be described as either simple or dated. Perhaps both. The next-generation car will reportedly bring the icon into the modern era with a design similar to that of the latest Altima and Sentra. We can only hope this is not entirely true as neither of those are sports cars.

      Power output is said to increase to around 400 horsepower thanks to a twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 cribbed from the Infiniti Q50 and Q60 400 Red Sport. While Infiniti hooks that engine to a 7-speed automatic transmission AutoBlog's sources said a manual transmission will be on the menu for those who #GiveAShift.

      Nissan might have given everyone a preview of this powertrain in a current 370Z with a 2020 SEMA show concept.

      A new NISMO version with close to 500 horsepower is likely in the cards at some point, though it's unclear if Nissan will simply crank up the boost or use electrification to create more power.

      AutoBlog said the next-generation Z's debut could still be a year or two out, but what might be a powertrain mule was spotted turning laps at the Nürburgring in October.

      The man known as "Mr. GT-R," Hiroshi Tamura, chief product specialist for the GT-R and NISMO, told Motor Authority in 2019 the future of the GT-R and the Z would be shaped by customers. Sounds like customers said they want the Z to return to its roots in terms of looks and deliver more power.
      2021 Nissan Z: What We Know So Far
      A redesign is finally coming for Nissan's iconic sports car, and it sounds promising.


      Meaninngless Illustration by Radovan Varicak

      • Twin-Turbo V-6 Power
      • Rear-Wheel Drive, as God Intended
      • Retro Styling
      • Hopefully Still Affordable


      The current 370Z starts at just $31,015 and remains a decent performance bargain today despite its age. While there's no doubt in our mind that the new model will see a significant price uptick, we're guessing (and hoping) that the new Z will start somewhere in the $40,000 range, which would undercut the Toyota Supra by a few thousand dollars.

      All signs point to the new Nissan Z's arrival being imminent. Our suspicion is that it will make its first appearance sometime later in 2020, going on sale in the U.S. as a 2021 model either at the end of this year or early next year. We can't wait to see it for real.

      https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...z-future-2021/
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      1972 Datsun 240Z



      2020 Nissan 370Z

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      03-20-2020 09:47 AM #2
      I’m still skeptical that this will happen and depending on how hard this financial crisis hits and how long it lasts, Nissan might have to ice it. But... I am paying attention and somewhat hopeful. If they can offer cleaner styling than the Supra and undercut the starting price by $5K, I would have to seriously consider it.
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      03-20-2020 09:48 AM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Seabird View Post
      I’m still skeptical that this will happen and depending on how hard this financial crisis hits and how long it lasts, Nissan might have to ice it. But... I am paying attention and somewhat hopeful. If they can offer cleaner styling than the Supra and undercut the starting price by $5K, I would have to seriously consider it.
      Yeah, I think the sweet spot for this car will be right in the middle of the BRZ/86 and the Supra.

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      03-20-2020 09:58 AM #4
      The new Z rendering has a Toyota fascia.

      Looks pretty good, though.

      No collaboration with another automaker? What does Nissan know about the sport coupe market that Toyota doesn't?


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      03-20-2020 10:03 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      No collaboration with another automaker? What does Nissan know about the sport coupe market that Toyota doesn't?

      Is this being built on an Infiniti platform? Possibly shared with the next Q50?

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      03-20-2020 10:10 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      The new Z rendering has a Toyota fascia.
      Huh? Looks way more Hyundai/Kia then anything from Toyota.
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      03-20-2020 10:37 AM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      Huh? Looks way more Hyundai/Kia then anything from Toyota.
      Technically it’s a Mazda, but:


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      03-20-2020 10:31 AM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Lwize View Post
      The new Z rendering has a Toyota fascia.

      Looks pretty good, though.
      I mean... it's a rendering from someone at C&D, not Nissan, I wouldn't put too much stock in any of it.

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      03-20-2020 01:44 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by Sporin View Post

      Did you know that Nissan is working on an all-new replacement for the 300Z? I've collected some snippets below.
      What year is it??


      All good news though I still maintain the 370z is a great car though, just about 5k too expensive.

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      03-20-2020 01:46 PM #11
      The specs sound promising, but like any sports car, it's going to be all about the details. I'd consider one of these depending on what the finished product brings to the table. I suppose I should own an Asian performance car at some point and this is shaping up to be right in my sweet spot.

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      03-20-2020 01:53 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by NoGrip61 View Post
      What year is it??


      All good news though I still maintain the 370z is a great car though, just about 5k too expensive.
      I legitimately had to go online to see what the current number is, that car is way off my radar.

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      03-21-2020 08:50 AM #13
      I loved the Z32, but I agree the new car needs to be more retro styled.

      I have no issue with turbos either.

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      03-22-2020 04:43 PM #14
      The current Z starts at $30k and tops out with the $45k NISMO. I’m sure the street prices are heavily discounted now.

      I’d like to think they can stay in that range with a cheaper, Turbo-4 coming in just above the BRZ/86 and the top spec 6-cylinder (turbo probably) with all the goodies undercutting the Supra by a little bit.

      That price range also attacks the American pony car market nicely.

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      03-23-2020 07:33 PM #15
      This thread makes me wonder when was the last time Datsun/Nissan dealers were marking up the stickers on Z cars? We all know it started with the 240Z. I can't recall it happening on other Z cars though.

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      03-23-2020 10:08 PM #16
      Yeah we don't have "really twisty" in paved 2-lane roads. We have sweepers that are only fun at road course type speeds, 50+ mph at the apex in a 35-55 mph zone. Probably 80+ to be any fun in a new Evora. You come out of one of those at 115 and you're going straight to jail.

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      03-23-2020 11:35 PM #17
      I keep asking because you never actually answer. Post a video or at least a map of these mythical roads with no enforced speed limits that you can safely drive flat out on in an extremely capable Lotus.

      We don't have that anywhere East of the Mississippi. Roads with super tight corners, if they're paved at all, are 1.2 lanes wide with no center line and trees blocking the view through nearly every corner so it is 110% reckless to drive hard on them even if there were no cops... but there will be cops. If you don't kill yourself, you will go to jail.

      I can't believe that you have personal racetracks available all over. You have to be exaggerating. CA is awesome enough already without it being Adult Disneyland 24/7 for free with no risk. That's just rubbing salt in the rest of the world's wounds.

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      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      I keep asking because you never actually answer. Post a video or at least a map of these mythical roads with no enforced speed limits that you can safely drive flat out on in an extremely capable Lotus.

      We don't have that anywhere East of the Mississippi. Roads with super tight corners, if they're paved at all, are 1.2 lanes wide with no center line and trees blocking the view through nearly every corner so it is 110% reckless to drive hard on them even if there were no cops... but there will be cops. If you don't kill yourself, you will go to jail.

      I can't believe that you have personal racetracks available all over. You have to be exaggerating. CA is awesome enough already without it being Adult Disneyland 24/7 for free with no risk. That's just rubbing salt in the rest of the world's wounds.
      Ever watched The Smoking Tire with Matt Farrah? He does those on you guessed it, deserted mountain roads. They exist. They're a thing. Plenty of TCL'ers have gone driving with me, seen me drive, been in my car when I've driven, and can attest that I'm not lying that it's possible to go for spirited drives in California without getting killed, or going to jail. It's been my hobby for the last 20 years. Just because your brain isn't registering it doesn't mean I am exaggerating.

      This is NOT me. Just a video I found of one road I enjoy, with some total tool bags driving, and doing it very, very wrong (crossing double yellows, going slow mid corner, then gunning it on straights). People like these idiots are the ones that draw attention from the cops.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      Ever watched The Smoking Tire with Matt Farrah? He does those on you guessed it, deserted mountain roads. They exist. They're a thing. Plenty of TCL'ers have gone driving with me, seen me drive, been in my car when I've driven, and can attest that I'm not lying that it's possible to go for spirited drives in California without getting killed, or going to jail. It's been my hobby for the last 20 years. Just because your brain isn't registering it doesn't mean I am exaggerating.

      This is NOT me. Just a video I found of one road I enjoy, with some total tool bags driving, and doing it very, very wrong (crossing double yellows, going slow mid corner, then gunning it on straights). People like these idiots are the ones that draw attention from the cops.

      So tons of cyclists, driveways/intersections, and low visibility corners but you go ahead and run flat out anyway with no consequences? You're lucky to be alive.

      Yeah we don't have that here. Any road remotely like that is narrow with no centerline and it's full of potholes (or unpaved). And there are cops. Cops everywhere.

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      03-24-2020 12:54 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      So tons of cyclists, driveways/intersections, and low visibility corners but you go ahead and run flat out anyway with no consequences? You're lucky to be alive.

      Yeah we don't have that here. Any road remotely like that is narrow with no centerline and it's full of potholes (or unpaved). And there are cops. Cops everywhere.
      We get it dude, it sucks to drive where you live. It’s not like that everywhere. California and most of the west are FULL of great driving roads with minimal downsides.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rakshas View Post
      We get it dude, it sucks to drive where you live. It’s not like that everywhere. California and most of the west are FULL of great driving roads with minimal downsides.
      I know this back and forth involving troyguitar is old news, but I had an epiphany moment late last year where I figured out why I felt unsatisfied and kept buying 2 cars a year, it just sucks to be a car enthusiast in most of Wisconsin for a number of reasons (aside from the SW part of the state that the glaciers never hit), and that may be true in upstate NY as well. Considering I bought 3 cars in 11 months I haven't learned my lesson, yet.

      Near me, there are about 3 separate stretches of road that are like 1 or 1.5 miles of fun, in total. But the kettle marine scenic drive is not that far from me so I might check that out again. This is also why I want to get into rallycross but that'll involve a bunch of landscaping work.

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      03-24-2020 01:31 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      So tons of cyclists, driveways/intersections, and low visibility corners but you go ahead and run flat out anyway with no consequences? You're lucky to be alive.

      Yeah we don't have that here. Any road remotely like that is narrow with no centerline and it's full of potholes (or unpaved). And there are cops. Cops everywhere.
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      03-24-2020 01:40 AM #23
      Here is a still photo of me and Sold Over Sticker (in the Vololvo!) driving on one of those mythical roads


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      03-24-2020 02:38 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      So tons of cyclists, driveways/intersections, and low visibility corners but you go ahead and run flat out anyway with no consequences? You're lucky to be alive.

      Yeah we don't have that here. Any road remotely like that is narrow with no centerline and it's full of potholes (or unpaved). And there are cops. Cops everywhere.
      Honest question. Are you projecting your misery on to me, or would you like an actual response from me? Based upon our prior interactions, I feel it's more like you hate where you live and where you're at in life, and honestly, I can't unpack those feels with a few posts about NorCal roads.

      Depending on the answer, it's either those guys in that video violated right place right time, and if it's the other, it's because I'll never convince you otherwise. Lemme know.
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      03-25-2020 10:01 PM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Sold Over Sticker View Post
      This is NOT me. Just a video I found of one road I enjoy, with some total tool bags driving, and doing it very, very wrong (crossing double yellows, going slow mid corner, then gunning it on straights). People like these idiots are the ones that draw attention from the cops.
      That road looks like a lot of fun but not the way those bozos were driving. I think it would be fun even while staying in your lane, watching out for cyclists and motorbikes. Admittedly, I'm not fond of mountain roads like that- one misstep and you're going to fall off.

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