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      05-22-2020 10:30 AM #26
      Quote Originally Posted by Pizza Cat View Post
      ...because it’s 3 dollars. 3 dollars every 6-12 months isn’t affecting squat in my budget.
      The point isn't the cost, it's that it's completely unnecessary and illogical. A lug nuts cost about the same amount-would you replace those every time you take them off just because they're cheap?

      Edit: To be clear, I'm not singling you or anyone else out, I'm just curious about this is as a matter of car-guy-consumer behavior.
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      05-22-2020 10:33 AM #27
      Quote Originally Posted by 4.OMG View Post
      The point isn't the cost, it's that it's completely unnecessary and illogical. A lug nuts cost about the same amount-would you replace those every time you take them off just because they're cheap?
      I do enjoy new lug nuts every now and then.
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      05-22-2020 10:34 AM #28
      Isn't it a good idea to replace the plastic drain plugs on engines with 21st century plastic oil pans?

      I never did on my old VW 2.0L NA engine and it didn't leak out the oil pan. It leaked elsewhere though...

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      05-22-2020 10:48 AM #30
      On our MK7 VW's with the plastic pan and plastic plug with a rubber o-ring I replace them every oil change, the same as they do at the dealer if you use them for service. I'm not sure if they even sell the o-ring separately?

      On my Cayman I've replaced the aluminum drain plug once out of 3 oil changes, but I replace the crush washer every time. I gather the reason to replace these is because they are aluminum and could fatigue and crack after a while.

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      05-22-2020 10:53 AM #31
      Subaru - Never replace the plug, only the crush washer
      Porsche - Same, replace sump and oil tank crush washers
      Touareg - Soft alloy drain plug recommended for replacement (along with crush washer) every oil change. Have done one oil change thus far and did replace it. It also uses an allen key/socket, so I will likely continue to replace every oil change. Cheap insurance in case the soft alloy allen rounds off a bit and I can't torque properly going back in.
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      05-22-2020 11:14 AM #32
      My old Toyotas, replace crush washer each time.

      Mk4 no, then started to extract
      B6: fumoto valve with nipple
      Tiguan: no. Reuse the steel bolt with washer

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      05-22-2020 11:22 AM #33
      Quote Originally Posted by @McMike View Post
      Never replaced a plug.*
      Never replaced a washer.
      I have one sump plug with an o-ring, but have only changed that one once in 8-10 oil changes.

      *I have changed a plug once because the hex head was starting to strip, but it had nothing to do with a fluid change.

      same

      though i do occasionally swap orings but its pretty rare.

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      05-22-2020 11:28 AM #34
      Don't replace the plug itself unless it starts to feel a bit janky going in/out. Replace the washer every second or third time, when I remember. The Jeep has a Fumoto.

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      05-22-2020 11:39 AM #35
      I think the whole replace bolt deal is due to 12 pt socket use and / or quickie lube joints rounding off the corners. My old Passat, I just replaced the washer, although I have flipped over the washer and re-used once or twice over the years I had her. My current Golf R has a plastic plug with a rubber gasket, I will replace every time. Porsche , new washers re-use bolts.
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      05-22-2020 12:05 PM #36
      First, no matter the car I refer to the factory manual and I would suggest you see what they put in there for your vehicle.

      Personally, I’ve opted for a quick release hook up where you change the plug to one that allows for faster oil changes later. Ive attached a photo for reference..once replaced with the plug and new washer you technically never have to remove and replace it ever again. Just uncap, have a hose with the male quick connector attached, insert and twist. Oil comes out without a mess in a few minutes and you cap it back up hand tight. Dont even need pliers.




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      05-22-2020 12:19 PM #37
      No, just the washer.

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      05-22-2020 12:20 PM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by joeyfrost View Post
      First, no matter the car I refer to the factory manual and I would suggest you see what they put in there for your vehicle.

      Personally, I’ve opted for a quick release hook up where you change the plug to one that allows for faster oil changes later. Ive attached a photo for reference..once replaced with the plug and new washer you technically never have to remove and replace it ever again. Just uncap, have a hose with the male quick connector attached, insert and twist. Oil comes out without a mess in a few minutes and you cap it back up hand tight. Dont even need pliers.




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      Looks like a similar concept to the (discontinued) FRAM SureDrain system
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      05-22-2020 02:44 PM #39
      Since my car has a plastic drain screw, it's recommended that it be replaced every second oil change.

      It would take some abuse for the screw to wear out, I just don't trust the o ring to last indefinitely.

      Also uses an oil extractor.

      Edit: Back when my cars had oil pan drain bolts I never replaced them. I did replace the crush washer whenever the bolt was removed.
      Last edited by Just Another Sweater; 05-22-2020 at 02:48 PM.

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      05-22-2020 03:26 PM #40
      Oil change? Peasants..I replace the entire engine every 10k..the peace of mind is worth the paltry few thousand bucks.

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      05-22-2020 03:32 PM #41
      I just replace the washer. Whenever I get some filters I also get the washers to go along with it. But if I dont have washer, no big deal and I reuse the existing one. Have never had any issues.

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      05-22-2020 03:59 PM #42
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    19. 05-22-2020 04:09 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by BsickPassat View Post
      Looks like a similar concept to the (discontinued) FRAM SureDrain system
      Stahlbus. It's neat, but $45 is a lot of money to save a little bit of mess and maybe 45 seconds of wrenching twice a year.

    20. 05-22-2020 05:10 PM #44
      Fumoto.

      don't replace anything, just drain and close it up.

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      05-22-2020 05:27 PM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by The Kilted Yaksman View Post
      Stahlbus. It's neat, but $45 is a lot of money to save a little bit of mess and maybe 45 seconds of wrenching twice a year.
      Yes from stahlbus, but considering spending on a bolt/washer every oil change per the manual is a bit ridiculous. I also change my oil much more frequently due to the tune and mods. For me, it made more sense for a one time 45$ vs 4$ every oil change. I change my oil about 3-4 times a year, but lets say someone did spring and fall at 2 times a year....thats 8$ in a bolt and washer. 5-6 oil changes later and youre at 40-48$. To each his own, but one of the best 45$ i ever spent.


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      05-22-2020 08:32 PM #46
      I just buy the oil service kit from ShopDAP for the MK7, it comes with the new drain plug.
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      05-22-2020 08:34 PM #47
      Quote Originally Posted by Hostile View Post
      I just buy the oil service kit from ShopDAP for the MK7, it comes with the new drain plug.
      Skip the Schwaben tool and just use a flat head screwdriver.

      I bought the tool before knowing it was a waste of money.

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      05-22-2020 10:52 PM #48
      Quote Originally Posted by shimps1 View Post
      Are you replacing your drain plug every oil change?
      Only the the dealer knows for sure....

      In five years I've opened the hood 3 times. twice to refill the washer fluid.
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      05-22-2020 11:04 PM #49
      Quote Originally Posted by shimps1 View Post
      Should I be replacing the whole bolt as well? Super cheap piece of mind at like $3.00 for the bolt and gasket, but I am curious if this is still something that is part of a regular oil change.
      I change it between tuneups


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      05-23-2020 02:52 AM #50
      I used to change the crush washer after every oil change because it would leak if I reused it. I have been using the metal with rubber inner washer. I reuse until I notice a tear or separation of the rubber from the metal. So far I have gone through six oil changes without any leaks. As far as the drain bolt goes I reuse every time. Not changing that unless I strip or cross thread it.

      Last edited by devianb; 05-23-2020 at 02:59 AM.

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