VWVortex.com - tell me about the Mercedes W211 E320/350 E-Class. What to look for?
Username or Email Address
Do you already have an account?
Forgot your password?
  • Log in or Sign up

    VWVortex


    The Car Lounge
    Results 1 to 23 of 23

    Thread: tell me about the Mercedes W211 E320/350 E-Class. What to look for?

    1. Member Dieselstation's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 15th, 2001
      Location
      Southern California
      Posts
      10,250
      Vehicles
      www.speed-driven.com
      05-22-2020 09:51 PM #1
      I've been thinking of getting one and since they're sort of cheap now, I thought i'd ask and see what people thought of them? what reliability issues? are they even reliable? and what features to look for? I know for sure I don't want automatic shocks and will probably swap out to coilovers. would also like to get a manual but i know those are rare. But which year to look for? What issues? etc. thanks

      Speed-Driven Wallpapers: http://www.speed-driven.com

    2. Remove Advertisements

      Advertisements
       

    3. Member
      Join Date
      Jan 18th, 2018
      Posts
      6,330
      Vehicles
      '16 TLX SH-AWD- NA is BEST
      05-22-2020 10:17 PM #2
      I don't think these came in manual in the US bub

      Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
      Quote Originally Posted by QUIRKiT View Post
      I spent my entire season budget during the off-season on go fast parts, so now I'm wishing I hadn't and had saved a little so I could buy a sim rig.

    4. Member
      Join Date
      Dec 9th, 2011
      Posts
      472
      Vehicles
      2014 Corolla 6MT, 2017 Golf
      05-22-2020 10:21 PM #3
      I believe that this was one of the better E classes after the W124. I don’t think they came in manual in the US.

      I’d go to the model specific forum in Benzworld.org to get more guidance.


      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    5. Member TangoRed's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 7th, 2005
      Location
      Seattle, WA
      Posts
      12,182
      05-22-2020 10:27 PM #4
      Well, let's narrow it down a bit. Do you have enough money for a 2009 E350 with the sport package? That'd be the only one I'd buy. You'll skip almost all the headaches commonly associated with the W211 that way. I'd watch out for:

      -Worn front control arm bushings
      -Window regulators
      -Bonus if cats have been replaced
      -Panoramic sunroof can leak
      -I'd have the timing chain/timing chain tensioner inspected if over 100k

      Otherwise you should be in for smooth sailing. Any German car from the mid 2000s is subject to random electrical faults but those vary from car to car.
      Quote Originally Posted by Doug Butabi View Post
      And on the tenth day of the two thousand fifteenth year, TCL finds out about rich people.

    6. 05-22-2020 10:39 PM #5
      W211s were not available with a manual transmission in the US.

      Definitely get a post-facelift car, 2007-2009. Don't get an early car. SBC brakes are evil crap that can kill you, the climate controls are harder to use, 5 speed auto in the 320 v. 7 speed in the 350. Quality standards in the facelift cars is higher, noticeably better reliability.

      Airmatic isn't that common in a 6 cylinder- I believe it was standard in the E500/550.

      Don't get one with a panoramic roof- they leak and can break, very expensive to fix.

      Check the engine number on mbworld- the balance shafts can fail on these cars, that's another very expensive fix.

      Buy the very best condition car you can afford- I've seen some 100k+ mile cars that almost look new, so if it's well taken care of, these cars last.

    7. Member mike in SC's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 29th, 2004
      Location
      The South
      Posts
      1,868
      Vehicles
      2013 5.0 F-150 1966 MGB 1988 VW Fox Wagon
      05-22-2020 11:38 PM #6
      My in-laws have one (2008). They bought it with sorta high miles, around 120K. The only think I noticed that needs attention are busted motor mounts-it sounds rougher on acceleration than it ought to sound. A broken ground wire on/close to the trunk lid caused some weird issues. It was an easy fix.
      (sheriff)Early, I though you said this was a drug possum.
      (Early) Sure, I drug him from the ditch.
      (sheriff) I wish you told me that before you sold him to me.

    8. Senior Member 2.0T_Convert's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 23rd, 2009
      Location
      NYC
      Posts
      21,689
      Vehicles
      Two fake rich sedans & one non-Prius hybrid
      05-23-2020 09:01 AM #7
      Get this wagon.



    9. Member Lifelong Obsession's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 23rd, 2011
      Location
      PA and southern New England
      Posts
      3,758
      Vehicles
      '08 Acura TL
      05-23-2020 12:42 PM #8
      Definitely stick to 2007+ to avoid SBC. That said, my parents' 2004 E320 4Matic (bought new in late 2003) was still reliable when we got rid of it with over 190K miles in 2016 - it just needed a lot of suspension stuff replaced.

      If you see a scary red "charging system visit workshop" warning, you probably just need a new secondary battery (the one under the hood). Main battery is in the trunk.

    10. Geriatric Member Hostile's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 18th, 2001
      Location
      Near Rabbit5GTI
      Posts
      39,043
      Vehicles
      '15 STi & '16 .:R
      05-23-2020 02:24 PM #9
      My parents 1999 E320 sedan was generally reliable until they got rid of it last year when one of the rear shock mounts rusted through.
      iain

    11. 05-23-2020 02:39 PM #10
      I hear the ones to run from are the ones with solar panels on the roof as they are prone to cracking

    12. 05-23-2020 04:31 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Lifelong Obsession View Post
      Definitely stick to 2007+ to avoid SBC. T
      This is a very important point.

    13. Moderator Harv's Avatar
      Join Date
      Oct 31st, 2004
      Location
      PA
      Posts
      19,608
      Vehicles
      W116 - W123 - AMG - W463
      05-23-2020 04:45 PM #12
      The M272s in a certain range has balance shaft worn sprockets deep into the engine. They'll fail and grenade the engine. Not worth the labor fixing it before it fails.

    14. Senior Member bzcat's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 26th, 2001
      Location
      Los Angeles
      Posts
      24,495
      05-25-2020 02:18 PM #13
      2007+ W211 is the one to get as many already pointed out. But depending on your budget, I suggest also looking at W212... newer platform and better construction and material quality all around.

    15. Member
      Join Date
      Aug 22nd, 2014
      Location
      Houston
      Posts
      416
      Vehicles
      2012 Accord, 2012 Escape, 69 (nice) Beetle
      05-25-2020 03:42 PM #14
      A friend had a clk55 for a while, similar year. Interior was nice, but he took full advantage of the carmax warranty. Obviously different engine and suspension and roof and stuff, but the car and the local dealers service waiting area were both nice places to be.

      I got a free hat when I dropped it off for him one time.

    16. Senior Member Silly_me's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 26th, 1999
      Location
      The Blueass State
      Posts
      28,160
      05-25-2020 04:01 PM #15
      I have a diesel so can't comment on the gas engines, but I love mine, no issues (and I have a pano and love it ) Crispyfritter had one that ticked a lot of the 'issues' all at once, leaky trans on to control module comes to mind. So maybe he'll chime in with some woes.

      Quote Originally Posted by Lifelong Obsession View Post
      Definitely stick to 2007+ to avoid SBC.
      I love SBC, a great system IMO (while it works ). The warranty on these was extended to 25 years or something (the card is in the manual and I'm too lazy to go check ).
      Germans are white people. Look up #84 on the list of things white people like: Gear. Lots of Gear. We even have gear farkles over here. -Atomicalex

      Upon my word I have had as much excitement on a car as in the air, especially since the R.F.C. have had women drivers. -James Byford McCudden

    17. Member
      Join Date
      Mar 19th, 2000
      Location
      Mississauga, ON
      Posts
      625
      Vehicles
      Current: 11 M3, 10 Highlander; Past: 10 328i, 94 Golf, 97 Jetta, 98 328iS, 03 GTI VR6
      05-25-2020 04:23 PM #16
      I inherited a hand me down 2007 E300 from my parents, with 4Matic. The car has just under 40k miles on it, and a few fender scrapes due to a 90-yr old driver

      It's an intensely boring car to drive (maybe the 4Matic kills it, but the engine, tranny and suspension tuning are lethargic).

      Reliability has been a mixed bag:
      - Both front wheel bearings have been replaced (right after the rotors were done)
      - Crank position sensor (I think) also went bad and car had to be towed to the indy mechanic
      - Now there is a strong raw gasoline smell from the cabin (something with the fuel delivery system now)

      Otherwise, the interior is very well built, trunk is quite large, and it's a comfy cruiser for long trips. Depends on the condition of your model and what maintenance has been done.
      Last edited by OG; 05-25-2020 at 06:29 PM.

    18. Member Hellgate's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 29th, 2016
      Location
      Austin, TX
      Posts
      252
      Vehicles
      2017 Passat SE
      05-25-2020 04:41 PM #17
      I had a 2003 E500 for several years, '05 thru '08, It was okay. The biggest issue was the very tight firewall. Neither the dealer, nor my regular European shop could get the valve cover gasket in easily resulting in a steady oil weep.

      The car wasn't all the comfortable either. I bought it after my 1998 BMW 528i was totaled. I missed the BMW. I happily sold the MB and haven't looked back.
      --Pete--

    19. Member alex_bgnet's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 6th, 2004
      Location
      DC
      Posts
      1,724
      Vehicles
      3x E6x, D3 A8
      05-25-2020 07:14 PM #18
      Having serviced my dad's 2006 E350 4matic for 3 years/80k I have to only add one very important advise: stay away from 4 matic. If his was RWD I would say the car has been bulletproof. The cars like to chew transfer cases if not maintained properly. You also get a 7-speed tranny compared to 5 speed on AWD models.
      Current: 2005 V70, 2006 E350, 2010 535i, 2007 E61 x2, 2007 A8
      Past Volvos: 1996 960, 1998 S70 T5M, 1999 V70R, 2000 V70, 2004 S60R
      Past Audis: B5S4, 1990 90 2.3qm

    20. 05-25-2020 09:23 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by OG View Post
      I inherited a hand me down 2007 E300 from my parents, with 4Matic. The car has just under 40k miles on it, and a few fender scrapes due to a 90-yr old driver

      It's an intensely boring car to drive (maybe the 4Matic kills it, but the engine, tranny and suspension tuning are lethargic).

      - Now there is a strong raw gasoline smell from the cabin (something with the fuel delivery system now)
      These cars aren't sporty, and they really weren't meant to be. You need to fix the fuel leak ASAP- there is either a TSB or a recall on the fuel line to remedy this issue.

    21. Member alex_bgnet's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 6th, 2004
      Location
      DC
      Posts
      1,724
      Vehicles
      3x E6x, D3 A8
      05-25-2020 09:45 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by t44tq View Post
      The trans is 7 speed on the E350s, including the 4Matics. 5 speed is the older transmission on the E320 and E500. If you don't do the transmission service at 40/45k, you're going to kill the transmission and transfer case.
      There is no 7 speed all wheel drive W211 in existence anywhere in the world. All 4matics came with 5 speed slushboxes. Only LCI RWD (2007-2009) E350 and E550 came with 7G-tronic.
      Current: 2005 V70, 2006 E350, 2010 535i, 2007 E61 x2, 2007 A8
      Past Volvos: 1996 960, 1998 S70 T5M, 1999 V70R, 2000 V70, 2004 S60R
      Past Audis: B5S4, 1990 90 2.3qm

    22. 05-25-2020 10:15 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by alex_bgnet View Post
      There is no 7 speed all wheel drive W211 in existence anywhere in the world. All 4matics came with 5 speed slushboxes. Only LCI RWD (2007-2009) E350 and E550 came with 7G-tronic.
      You're right- post deleted.

    23. Senior Member bzcat's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 26th, 2001
      Location
      Los Angeles
      Posts
      24,495
      05-26-2020 12:56 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by alex_bgnet View Post
      There is no 7 speed all wheel drive W211 in existence anywhere in the world. All 4matics came with 5 speed slushboxes. Only LCI RWD (2007-2009) E350 and E550 came with 7G-tronic.
      Another reason to step up to W212...

    24. Geriatric Member ValveCoverGasket's Avatar
      Join Date
      Mar 20th, 2002
      Location
      northwest corner, WA
      Posts
      41,237
      Vehicles
      duramax, tdi westy, dieselgate tdi, and an mg
      05-26-2020 02:30 PM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      Another reason to step up to W212...
      ^ the right answer

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  
    vwvortex.com is an independent Volkswagen enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Content on vwvortex.com is generated by its users. vwvortex.com is not in any way affiliated with Volkswagen AG.