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    1. 05-23-2020 09:45 AM #1
      Working on a project and I was wondering where you guys find a 21mm rod for a EA113. I've found them but I really do not want to spend $4-500. Anyone has some good used ones?

      I understand that the EA888 rods big end is thinner and I do not believe that will work on the crank I have.

      I'm open to any ideas.

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      05-23-2020 05:59 PM #2
      Good luck....I see some on ebay for about $200 if you can trust them.
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    4. 05-23-2020 07:47 PM #3
      None I found on eBay are for an EA113 and with 21mm small ends. Lots for EA888/21 and EA113/20mm.

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    6. 05-24-2020 08:19 AM #4
      can the 20mm's not be reamed out?

    7. 05-24-2020 10:47 AM #5
      Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post
      Working on a project and I was wondering where you guys find a 21mm rod for a EA113. I've found them but I really do not want to spend $4-500. Anyone has some good used ones?

      I understand that the EA888 rods big end is thinner and I do not believe that will work on the crank I have.

      I'm open to any ideas.
      Golf R (CRZA) rods/pistons use 21mm pins. I installed a set in my GTI (BPY) last year and have had no issues. More info here:

      https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...9296831?page=3
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    8. 05-24-2020 10:54 AM #6
      That is the question I will be asking my machinist. I suspect he would want one to give me an answer. So there is no reason to purchase the 20mm version if I can find 21mm version. The 21mm version also has 9mm bolts vs the standard 8mm.

      I was also wondering if I can use my JH rods and just taper the small end. I know those can be reamed to 21mm. Of course, I understand the issues with that. I also understand that people would think that is stupid. I've done a lot of stupid things that worked out just fine.

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      05-24-2020 03:07 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post
      None I found on eBay are for an EA113 and with 21mm small ends. Lots for EA888/21 and EA113/20mm.
      Yeah, I see. Some state TFSI but it's TSI. Tried CRZA/CDLx for MK6 Golf R engine but no luck.
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    10. 05-25-2020 12:29 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by SuckSquishBangBlow View Post
      Golf R (CRZA) rods/pistons use 21mm pins. I installed a set in my GTI (BPY) last year and have had no issues.
      And was it just luck you found some used ones? Got a secret source?

    11. 05-25-2020 02:01 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post
      That is the question I will be asking my machinist. I suspect he would want one to give me an answer. So there is no reason to purchase the 20mm version if I can find 21mm version. The 21mm version also has 9mm bolts vs the standard 8mm.

      I was also wondering if I can use my JH rods and just taper the small end. I know those can be reamed to 21mm. Of course, I understand the issues with that. I also understand that people would think that is stupid. I've done a lot of stupid things that worked out just fine.
      I guess it all depends how "over engineered" the original part is. lot of engine parts these days seem quite slender but up to the job.

    12. 05-25-2020 02:14 PM #10
      It's amazing how tiny and cheap the newly engineered parts look and they can withstand the loads that are put on them. I agree 100%.

      I suspect that I will go with the 20mm rods if my machinist says it will be ok to resize them. I believe there is enough meat in the bushing that it can accept a .5mm enlargement. I've tried to find pictures of the factory small end bushing but I've been unsuccessful. Most are too blurry.

    13. 05-25-2020 03:18 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Butcher View Post
      And was it just luck you found some used ones? Got a secret source?
      I bought them from a North Carolina salvage company that was parting out a MK6R. They were advertising in the Vortex MK6R section. I got the rod/piston combo for $155 shipped. They also come up on EBay from time to time (Autohaas). Search for CRZA rods and pistons.

      If you want aftermarket 21mm ea113 rods they can be found on EBay UK. I have seen K1 21mm (non-tapered small end) for about $500+shipping. I’ve seen people suggest that tapered small end (drop in) rods exist for K04 based ea113 motors in Europe, but the factory rods in K04 based ea113 have proven very strong which is probably why you don’t see many people replacing them.
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