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      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      Damn, I didn’t realize how “slow” this car is for having 311 horsepower. Recent test of a 2020 F-Sport:


      https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

      Slower then my A4 Quattro with 252 horsepower
      Our IS350 didn't feel 5.5 seconds slow, but I can't really explain why it can't put out at least 5 seconds with that much power. I guess the powerband really isn't favourable. Then again the target market could not care less. I would happily swap out a second of 0-60 for the option of a naturally aspirated engine that is tried and true and will not be a red flag in 10-15 years time.
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      06-15-2020 10:10 PM #77
      Exterior looks pretty good. Interior already looks dated.

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      Toyota needs to cool it with the screens sitting up so damn high on the dash already.

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      06-16-2020 12:08 AM #80
      Quote Originally Posted by DubbinGT View Post
      Exterior looks pretty good. Interior already looks dated.
      The only thing they need to do is integrate the infotainment screen a bit better but other than that I'd say it's perfect. The LCD ALL THE THINGS is what's going to look dated in 5 years. Look at infotainment setups from 5 years ago and it'll look like that and gradually get worse in looks and performance.

      Lexus is near timeless design, and is what automakers should strive towards.

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      06-16-2020 07:09 AM #81
      I think this is pretty sharp looking, inside and out.

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      06-16-2020 07:45 AM #82
      Quote Originally Posted by MylesPH1 View Post
      I continue to really like Lexus interiors. I’m really not sure what it is, but it looks clean without any overt gimmicks. Would drive.
      Been a fan of the IS interior since the swoosh light redesign.

      Totally agree, it looks purposely laid out without being overly flashy or tech stuffed. Adding CP (finally) along with a nicely sized infotainment screen feels like bringing the cockpit closer to perfection.

      On the surface I want to hate Toyota/Lexus for being lazy but I don't hate. I like this better than the TLX.

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      06-16-2020 09:08 AM #83
      Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Deforce View Post
      Our IS350 didn't feel 5.5 seconds slow, but I can't really explain why it can't put out at least 5 seconds with that much power. I guess the powerband really isn't favourable. Then again the target market could not care less. I would happily swap out a second of 0-60 for the option of a naturally aspirated engine that is tried and true and will not be a red flag in 10-15 years time.
      My car is about that fast. I have decided that anything with a triple digit quarter mile trap speed is fast enough for the street. I wasn't totally depressed with the TLX' power after driving my FIL's new Mustang GT. I drove an F30 328i which is about as fast and I felt the same about that.
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      06-16-2020 09:44 AM #84
      Quote Originally Posted by TetsuoShima View Post
      The only thing they need to do is integrate the infotainment screen a bit better but other than that I'd say it's perfect. The LCD ALL THE THINGS is what's going to look dated in 5 years. Look at infotainment setups from 5 years ago and it'll look like that and gradually get worse in looks and performance.

      Lexus is near timeless design, and is what automakers should strive towards.
      Yeah, nothing says timeless like an analog clock in the middle of the dash of your compact sport sedan targeted to a younger audience.

      The screen is fine, and I think what people talk about as "better integrated" is actually worse since that just means a bunch of unecessary shapes and bulk on the top of the dash. LCD screens aren't going to look dated in 5 years. Sorry man.

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      06-16-2020 09:49 AM #85
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      My car is about that fast. I have decided that anything with a triple digit quarter mile trap speed is fast enough for the street. I wasn't totally depressed with the TLX' power after driving my FIL's new Mustang GT. I drove an F30 328i which is about as fast and I felt the same about that.
      yeah i've driven the current A4 and my mom's TLX V6 and while on paper they seem similar its all about the power delivery. 5-60 the TLX has no lag so is def faster in normal situations and continues pulling up top whereas the A4 just flattens out at about 5k. The truly pathetic thing is that the A4 is the base model and the next TLX 2.0t will now offer the same performance at their base level as well, whereas for lexus this is their mid IS model.
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      06-16-2020 10:40 AM #87
      This looks really good. Even the grill is starting to make sense now.

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      06-16-2020 10:47 AM #88
      Similar to the last generation, I like the idea of a nice handling, Japanese RWD sedan with a real 6 cylinder NA motor. I like the interior, though it looks very similar to the previous generation but that's not a bad thing. I really like the proportions of the IS also, but I just can't get behind that predator face and the front bumper that looks like it would scrape on EVERY****INGTHING. I scrape enough with a stock height E91, this thing looks like it would bring the annoyance to a whole new level.
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      06-16-2020 10:56 AM #89
      I think it looks great.

      Anyone else seeing a lot of Camry design in the side profile? The upswept body line now being in front of the rear wheel, the flattened out body line from the rear door to the trunk, and the entire tail light look (from the side at least) is 100% camry.

      Not a bad thing IMO...
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      06-16-2020 11:15 AM #90
      Quote Originally Posted by gti5dr06 View Post
      yeah i've driven the current A4 and my mom's TLX V6 and while on paper they seem similar its all about the power delivery. 5-60 the TLX has no lag so is def faster in normal situations and continues pulling up top whereas the A4 just flattens out at about 5k. The truly pathetic thing is that the A4 is the base model and the next TLX 2.0t will now offer the same performance at their base level as well, whereas for lexus this is their mid IS model.
      I think the low gears on that 10AT are really aggressive as well which might damn near cancel out the lag. But yea 5-60 times are what matters in real life and where a lot of turbo launch control cars get exposed.

      I like this thing's looks but Toyota needs to stop dragging its feet with turbo charging. They need to pretty much match what the TLX is bringing at the minimum if they want enthusiasts to buy this. I'd def get an AWD TLX 2.0T over this.
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      06-16-2020 11:25 AM #91
      Hmm. So it's on the same wheelbase, which I assume means the same lack of back seat legroom? It's slightly wider and taller, but that won't help. That's a bummer, as that was the main turnoff for buying a CPO IS350 recently. They seem to have fixed some of the awkward styling of the pre-refresh/last generation/whatever it is though, which is nice.

      It is surprising that they haven't really improved the power output of that 3.5. It made 306hp in 2006, and now it's "only" 311. Still, it's nice that an n/a option is available.

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      06-16-2020 11:49 AM #92
      Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post
      It is surprising that they haven't really improved the power output of that 3.5. It made 306hp in 2006, and now it's "only" 311.
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      06-16-2020 12:48 PM #93
      Quote Originally Posted by johnny_p View Post
      I think it looks great.

      Anyone else seeing a lot of Camry design in the side profile? The upswept body line now being in front of the rear wheel, the flattened out body line from the rear door to the trunk, and the entire tail light look (from the side at least) is 100% camry.

      Not a bad thing IMO...
      I see it too... along with a bit of the ES350
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      06-16-2020 01:29 PM #94
      Quote Originally Posted by johnny_p View Post
      I think it looks great.

      Anyone else seeing a lot of Camry design in the side profile? The upswept body line now being in front of the rear wheel, the flattened out body line from the rear door to the trunk, and the entire tail light look (from the side at least) is 100% camry.

      Not a bad thing IMO...
      Yes it reminds me of the Camry. But the Lexus has much better proportions.

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      06-16-2020 01:51 PM #95
      Quote Originally Posted by CTK View Post
      I think the low gears on that 10AT are really aggressive as well which might damn near cancel out the lag. But yea 5-60 times are what matters in real life and where a lot of turbo launch control cars get exposed.

      I like this thing's looks but Toyota needs to stop dragging its feet with turbo charging. They need to pretty much match what the TLX is bringing at the minimum if they want enthusiasts to buy this. I'd def get an AWD TLX 2.0T over this.
      hopefully with 10AT gen 2 they fix the issues they had with the RDX. It again could be acura protecting the shawd, so we won't know until the journalists gets their hands on it.
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      06-16-2020 02:03 PM #96
      I think it looks fantastic.

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      06-17-2020 01:30 AM #97
      That grill's getting awfully close to Toyota... it didn't need to be rounded up, but who cares anyway.


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      06-17-2020 02:23 AM #98
      Quote Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post
      Damn, I didn’t realize how “slow” this car is for having 311 horsepower. Recent test of a 2020 F-Sport:


      https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

      Slower then my A4 Quattro with 252 horsepower
      The Lexus in that test also managed to get the exact same skipad numbers (.83g) as the 2017 Chrysler Pacifica. Very impressive sports sedan.

      https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...a-test-review/

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      06-17-2020 04:25 AM #99
      Quote Originally Posted by Stroker McCarlo View Post
      The Lexus in that test also managed to get the exact same skipad numbers (.83g) as the 2017 Chrysler Pacifica. Very impressive sports sedan.

      https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...a-test-review/
      And who gives a sh? Certainly not the people who actually buy them.

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      06-17-2020 04:47 AM #100
      Quote Originally Posted by chocofrappe55 View Post
      And who gives a sh? Certainly not the people who actually buy them.
      So what's the point of the IS then? Dump it, there's no sense in a RWD platform vehicle if the people that actually buy them don't care and would be perfectly fine with an ES, right?
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