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    1. Member Dr.AK's Avatar
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      06-30-2020 04:54 PM #1
      So,

      I recently bought this Audi and finally picked it up today. I'll show you some pics before I tell you a bit more about it.

























      It's a '87 model, so a pretty early car. The B3 was introduced in '86. It's also pretty bare spec - so far, I think the only real option box that was ticked is the fog lights. The engine was only made from '86 til '88 when it got replaced by the 2.0E. It's a 1.9 liter inline-four with 113hp.

      The body is in very good shape - no rust that I could find, no visible dents and dings. The rear bumper obviously needs to be replaced. A car that was parked just behind the Audi went up in flames a few years ago and the bumper melted. There were some shark edges on the melted bumper, so the previous owner simply cut the melted strip out of the bumper.

      The interior is pretty decent up front with no major flaws. The rear is okay too, except for a few big stains where some white paint spilled. I'll see if I can get this cleaned up.

      The engine... well, it runs. But not very well. I'll see if I can get it back in shape, if not I'll probably just replace it with a 1.8 or 2.0.


      I bought this together with my old man as a shared project for some bonding time in the garage. Well, we'll either bond or we'll kill each other.

      The plan is to restore it back to how it was when it left the factory, completely stock. Then register it on historic tags and drive it around whenever we're in the mood. Possibly a road trip to Ingolstadt to visit the Audi Museum.

      I've currently got my Porsche sitting in the workspace as it's waiting on a new generator, but once that's back on the road work on the Audi will begin. I've already found a replacement rear bumper which I'll pick up in a few days.
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      06-30-2020 05:08 PM #2
      Very much in!

      Also TIL a Caravan can tow a car.
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      06-30-2020 05:18 PM #3
      Congratulations, that looks like it is in very good condition!

      I have always liked the 80's for how clean of a design they are, and the simple reliable 8v engines. However, they are not very common to find find anymore in the US, and parts are also really hard to come by.
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      06-30-2020 05:25 PM #4
      Great to see you saving it - always loved these 80/90 models.

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      06-30-2020 05:25 PM #5
      Wow. This a beautiful thread and I am excited. Lots of old german stuff going on in the lounge lately and its great.
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      06-30-2020 05:31 PM #6
      I've always love the design of this era of Audi's. Looking forward to this.

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      06-30-2020 05:37 PM #7
      I love base spec German cars like this. Yes there's an exotic factor since we only get big engine well equipped cars in the US, but also because you're getting a car that's still high quality, just not fancy.
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      06-30-2020 05:40 PM #8
      I shocked this thing didn't end up in Bulgaria or Ukraine 10~15 years ago and driven into the ground. The fact that it is still around Germany for you to save it is quite remarkable.

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      06-30-2020 05:43 PM #9
      Glad this is of interest to some of you

      Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Deforce View Post
      Very much in!

      Also TIL a Caravan can tow a car.
      Ehhh, why wouldn't it be able to tow a car?

      Admittedly, our European standards for a tow vehicle are slightly different than North American standards... The trailer with the car was actually just barely in the tow rating for the Voyager. But it managed without problem. It's the 2.8 Diesel. About as fast as a tonne of bricks, but it gets the job done. It's actually our dog hauler. Probably wouldn't use it to tow a car every day, but once in a while it's absolutely fine. People here often just use normal cars to tow other cars. Case in point, when a friend of mine also bought a B3 a few months back, he towed it home with his Golf:



      Also just barely in the tow rating, mind you.

      Quote Originally Posted by Jettaboy1884 View Post
      Congratulations, that looks like it is in very good condition!

      I have always liked the 80's for how clean of a design they are, and the simple reliable 8v engines. However, they are not very common to find find anymore in the US, and parts are also really hard to come by.
      Thanks! It is! I've had a brief look under the car and it's looking amazing there as well.

      Luckily parts aren't that hard to come by here in Germany. Audi Tradition is pretty much a joke from what I know, though. But there's a healthy used parts market for these - in fact, there's a guy who parts these out not far from me where I've already found that bumper I need.

      Quote Originally Posted by burgerbob View Post
      Wow. This a beautiful thread and I am excited. Lots of old german stuff going on in the lounge lately and its great.
      That's actually what inspired me to start a thread!

      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      I shocked this thing didn't end up in Bulgaria or Ukraine 10~15 years ago and driven into the ground. The fact that it is still around Germany for you to save it is quite remarkable.
      True enough, a lot of B3s shared that fate sadly! There is still quite a number of them to be found, but they're getting less and less. You don't really see them in traffic anymore. If you see an Audi 80, it's usually a B4.
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      06-30-2020 06:30 PM #10
      I'm so in on this. Since you and I bought two of the finest German autos money could buy in '87 on the same day!

      Really excited for your build/resto. I only rode in an Audi 80 once and it was circa 1993 or so. Cute girl that was going to the local boarding school and hers was loaded. I wasn't sure which I liked more at the time her or the Audi.

      Best of luck to you! We can suffer together!

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      06-30-2020 11:56 PM #11
      Nice!
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      07-01-2020 12:13 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by Dr.AK View Post
      Ehhh, why wouldn't it be able to tow a car?

      Admittedly, our European standards for a tow vehicle are slightly different than North American standards... The trailer with the car was actually just barely in the tow rating for the Voyager. But it managed without problem. It's the 2.8 Diesel. About as fast as a tonne of bricks, but it gets the job done. It's actually our dog hauler. Probably wouldn't use it to tow a car every day, but once in a while it's absolutely fine. People here often just use normal cars to tow other cars. Case in point, when a friend of mine also bought a B3 a few months back, he towed it home with his Golf:



      Also just barely in the tow rating, mind you.


      I think the other thing is the amount people are willing to put into the trailer. What you have there looks better than 90% of what's on the road here. Is that braked as well?
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      07-01-2020 02:14 AM #13
      Oh, yeah, I get that.

      Yeah, it's braked. At least here in Germany, unbraked trailers are only allowed up to a total weight of 650kg. So any car trailers etc. have some form of brakes as they're well above that weight.
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      07-01-2020 03:34 AM #14
      Should be a fun project. I owned a 1990 Audi Coupe quattro and a 1994 Audi 90 quattro many years ago.

      How do you get the car on/off the trailer. Does it have a hidden ramp?

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      07-01-2020 03:51 AM #15
      Quote Originally Posted by bubuski View Post
      Should be a fun project. I owned a 1990 Audi Coupe quattro and a 1994 Audi 90 quattro many years ago.

      How do you get the car on/off the trailer. Does it have a hidden ramp?
      Nice, I wish mine was a Quattro! But I doubt I'd have gotten it for 300 bucks if it was

      The trailer has got a hidden compartment behind the plate where the two ramps are stored. You just slide them out and stick them on the back. It's a pretty basic system but it works.
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      07-01-2020 06:09 AM #16
      What motor is this? Around here those were sold with the 3A 2l motor.
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      07-01-2020 06:17 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by LT1M21Stingray View Post
      What motor is this? Around here those were sold with the 3A 2l motor.
      The 3A replaced this engine in '88. When the B3 was introduced in '86 the SD (the 1.9 I have) was the biggest engine you could order until the change to the 2.0 3A in '88.
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      07-01-2020 07:46 AM #19
      Congrats, I love these, and never see them in B3 form in the US. Now you have me curious about this thing...

      https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/c...151267305.html

      Quote Originally Posted by chucchinchilla View Post
      I love base spec German cars like this. Yes there's an exotic factor since we only get big engine well equipped cars in the US, but also because you're getting a car that's still high quality, just not fancy.
      Came to post very much this, there's a sleek purposefulness to them. Especially with aero hubcaps.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CostcoPizza View Post
      Congrats, I love these, and never see them in B3 form in the US. Now you have me curious about this thing...

      https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/c...151267305.html
      I'd love to just see that thing after a good hand wash. One of my favorite factory colors ever.

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      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      I'd love to just see that thing after a good hand wash. One of my favorite factory colors ever.
      Is it Alpine White or Pearl White? Hard to tell. It looks like Moss White right now.
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      100% in. This is going to be good.

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      Quote Originally Posted by chucchinchilla View Post
      I love base spec German cars like this. Yes there's an exotic factor since we only get big engine well equipped cars in the US, but also because you're getting a car that's still high quality, just not fancy.
      100% agree. I'm here for the good times. I wish it had the 5 cylinder, though.

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      OHHH I had a 1988 Audi 80 just like that one...loved that car! In for updates!
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      Quote Originally Posted by x(why)z View Post
      100% agree. I'm here for the good times. I wish it had the 5 cylinder, though.
      I'm not too sharp with my earlier Audi knowledge, but I think the 5 Cylinder would technically be the "90" model, I am not sure if the 80 was available with it. Honestly, between the B3 & B4 80 & 90 they all look really similar at a glance.

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