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    1. Member mike in SC's Avatar
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      I was working on my Fox today replacing the valve cover gasket. Your engine bay is nearly identical. Don't forget to check your intake boot for cracks. They tend to crack in the "accordion" section when they're no longer soft.
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      07-31-2020 02:25 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by Dr.AK View Post
      Mostly cause it's the 1.9E variant with 1847ccm displacement instead of the usual 1781 as all the 1.8 engines in the B3 had. There's only about 350 of the 1.9E still registered in Germany. In my eyes, that makes it worthy to be preserved as it left the factory.

      I know in general it's not anything really special, but I think that makes it all the more worthwhile to preserve it as many people just wouldn't care and would probably mod the hell out of the car.
      Interesting, I had never really thought of the 1.9 before. It has an odd displacement. According to Wikipedia, it's 111hp, similar to the 1.8 110hp but with a cat. I can't think of any other 1.9 gas engines from VW.
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      07-31-2020 02:41 PM #53
      What is the bore and stroke of the 1.9?
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      07-31-2020 05:20 PM #54
      Last edited by -camber; 07-31-2020 at 05:22 PM.

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      07-31-2020 05:40 PM #55
      Quote Originally Posted by -camber View Post
      That is for the 2.0, not the 1.9

      Thanks.
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      07-31-2020 10:57 PM #56
      https://www.ultimatespecs.com/car-sp...-B4)-19-E.html

      According to this it's 82x86.4mm whereas the 1.8 had 81x86.4mm and the 2.0 had 82.5x92.8mm
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      08-03-2020 12:31 AM #57
      Quote Originally Posted by Dr.AK View Post

      I bought this together with my old man as a shared project for some bonding time in the garage. Well, we'll either bond or we'll kill each other.
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      08-15-2020 03:52 PM #58
      Oh, so far it's working out.

      Just a minor update today, I don't have that much time to work on the Audi currently as I've got my cousin's first car sitting in the garage which needs to made roadworthy. A E46 318i that needs quite a bit of work as it has sat for a year, but he got it for free so hey. Basically needs a lot of maintenance (brakes, control arms, basic service) and some repairs as it's leaking oil somewhere, possibly the valve cover gasket.




      But today I got around to at least fixing up the timing belt cover for the Audi.

      You can see how crappy it looked in my last update, I think.

      Popped around to a friend's today who's got a sand blasting cabinet. Worked like a charm.


















      Still haven't ordered the parts I need, I need to get around to it soon... before we put it back together I want to freshen up the valve cover as well, so that'll likely receive a lick of paint soon-ish as well.
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      08-15-2020 09:09 PM #59
      Timing cover came out great.
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      08-15-2020 11:26 PM #60
      Quote Originally Posted by Iroczgirl View Post
      Timing cover came out great.
      Yes it does. Better yet, this cover fits on my motor.
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      08-16-2020 09:40 AM #61
      Quote Originally Posted by Dr.AK View Post




      Still haven't ordered the parts I need, I need to get around to it soon... before we put it back together I want to freshen up the valve cover as well, so that'll likely receive a lick of paint soon-ish as well.
      This is the thing I love about working on these cars. You can almost always find a project that takes an hour, or a half a day depending on how you are feeling. And the little things like this are so satisfying when you are done.

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      08-16-2020 12:42 PM #62
      Quote Originally Posted by VDub2625 View Post
      Interesting, I had never really thought of the 1.9 before. It has an odd displacement. According to Wikipedia, it's 111hp, similar to the 1.8 110hp but with a cat. I can't think of any other 1.9 gas engines from VW.
      The Volkswagen T3 (Vanagon in the US) used a 1.9 liter gasoline engine from about 1983 to 1985. It was a liquid-cooled horizontally-opposed four cylinder (Wasserboxer). It later became a 2.1 liter engine from about 1986.

      OK, back on topic....

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      08-23-2020 05:19 PM #63
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      This is the thing I love about working on these cars. You can almost always find a project that takes an hour, or a half a day depending on how you are feeling. And the little things like this are so satisfying when you are done.
      Exactly!

      Had some time yesterday and today to freshen up the valve cover. Another quick thing checked off the list:





      I've started ordering parts, but no idea when I'll have the time to install them yet.
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      09-26-2020 03:14 PM #64
      Whoop!

      Finally had some time today to get some work done.



      - New lifters
      - New alternator
      - timing belt and tensioner
      - accessory belt
      - new bolts for the crankshaft pulley as I had to destroy one of them and the others were a bit meh also

      New lifters in



      Cam back in



      Valve cover back on



      Timing belt and cover on



      Next I mounted up the alternator and the accessory belt but forgot to take a picture.

      Then it was time for the moment of truth: Turn the key and..... nothing. An audible Click from the starter, but that was it. Hm. Dead battery? Tried with jumpers... the same. With a sense of dread I tried turning the engine over by hand and... blocked. It would not budge.

      Turned out that the bolts for the crankshaft pulley were too long. I ordered them according to the parts number from the Audi parts catalogue and they were listed as M8x47mm. The old ones were M8x35mm. The new ones were so long, that they ended up pressing against the block (crank case?). I went ahead and shortened them down to 35mm, refitted them and... it works!

      First start:

      https://imgur.com/s8BD8me

      It runs! And it's a lot quieter than it used to be. The lifter chatter is entirely gone, as it should be. But something's making some noise still. After some quick listening the culprit was quickly found... the water pump's got a bearing failure:

      https://imgur.com/kbu9pzw

      So let it run without the accessory belt and... it purrs like a kitten.

      https://imgur.com/Qx4CGz0


      Going to order a new waterpump soon and then also have a look at the oilpan since it's very crusty and rusty. May have to replace it.

      The important fact is that I know it runs well. Now it's mainly just a matter of getting the maintenance up to spec.
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      09-26-2020 06:49 PM #65
      Nice update! Keep up the good work!

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      09-26-2020 09:07 PM #67
      Nice. With the inclusion of the water pump that should be all of the sealed bearings, right?
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      10-12-2020 07:05 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Nice. With the inclusion of the water pump that should be all of the sealed bearings, right?
      I think so, yeah. Can't really think of any others at the moment at least.

      Got the new waterpump in on saturday, along with a new thermostat.







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      Now it purrs like a kitten, even with the aux belt on. Proof: https://imgur.com/a/msXzYkA

      So satisfying.

      I've spotted the next areas that need attention though. It's blowing it's exhaust fumes nicely out of the flange where the exhaust meets the manifold, so that needs some attention soon. Additionally, the previous owner seems to have fitted the wrong temperature sensor as the plug won't fit the sensor. I'll have to look into sourcing the correct one.

      After I got done fitting the waterpump I took a few minutes to clean up the shop around the car as it was looking a bit like it was sitting in a dump. Gotta say when it's a bit cleaned up it immediately makes wrenching more fun. Now I gotta get around to hanging up those tool cabinets I've got sitting there...



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