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    Thread: $50k Negotiated or Less - AWD, New

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      07-28-2020 07:59 PM #1
      Needs:

      1) AWD
      2) Strongly prefer to fit road bike inside it, with or without taking off front wheel but would rather not if I don't have to
      3) SUV/CUV preferred but not required
      4) New (nothing against CPO, just want new for a daily, just personal preference so put the pitchforks away)
      5) Fun to drive at least a little, it can't be like driving a limp dick
      6) $50k or less negotiated

      Features wanted:

      1) Ventilated seats
      2) Memory seats
      3) Upgraded audio
      4) Sunroof
      5) App remote start (not fob)
      6) Minimal/no safety junk

      Honestly I'm pretty easy to please, but I also acknowledge a lot of cars in the poll even at $50k can't meet the first five of these, might not have a choice.

      Already crossed off the list:

      1) MQB Tiguan, see #6 above
      2) Wrangler, too hard to get in and out of
      3) Bronco, sick but timing won't work
      Last edited by puma1552; 07-28-2020 at 08:09 PM.

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      07-28-2020 08:02 PM #2
      I'd say a Toyota 4Runner, I love mine but it may be too much 6. I know it's not AWD.

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      07-28-2020 08:12 PM #3
      CX9 GT or signature?

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      07-28-2020 08:16 PM #4
      Dark horse option - Explorer ST? RWD-based platform, 400 hp...don't know much more about them, but seems like it would check all your boxes. The Edge ST might be too short to fit the road bike requirement.

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      07-28-2020 08:21 PM #5
      Forgot to add, I would like to stay on the smaller side if possible, which I acknowledge the GLC doesn't really fit.

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      07-28-2020 08:23 PM #6
      I'd say a Blazer RS would be a good choice (as a lease or after intense negotiation anyways, MSRP is ridiculous)

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      07-28-2020 08:32 PM #7
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      07-28-2020 08:48 PM #8
      I don’t see how you’re going to get all that luxury junk without the safety junk, especially new.

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      07-28-2020 08:54 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by puma1552 View Post
      Forgot to add, I would like to stay on the smaller side if possible, which I acknowledge the GLC doesn't really fit.
      GLB?'

      The remote app starter is going to be the tough part.
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      07-28-2020 09:16 PM #10
      XC40 would fit the bill for you, but it does come with safety systems. Most of them you can turn off or at least set to low sensitivity, so they shouldn’t bother you too much. The app-based remote start works well and the XC40 is reasonably fun to drive (and, with the T5, even kind of quick—about as quick as a GTI).

      With some negotiating the XC60 R-Design (T5) should be within reach as well. I know from personal experience that it will definitely fit a bike without having to take the front wheel off.

      Volvo’s R-Design trims can’t be had with ventilated seats, however. They have a mix of fabric/leather seats, so in practice you won’t really have a swamp a** problem as quickly.
      Last edited by DubyaV; 07-28-2020 at 09:20 PM.

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      07-28-2020 09:23 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by Stevo12 View Post
      Dark horse option - Explorer ST? RWD-based platform, 400 hp...don't know much more about them, but seems like it would check all your boxes. The Edge ST might be too short to fit the road bike requirement.
      I saw someone park one in a Little Caesar's parking lot in as I drove by. For that reason, I'm out.

      But for real, I kinda like these, too. I'd be interested in driving one, especially back to back with the updates Durango.
      Last edited by x(why)z; 07-28-2020 at 09:31 PM.

    13. 07-28-2020 09:31 PM #12
      Alfa Giulia or Stelvio. You can get a new 2019 for under $40K, 2020's for under 50K. Very fun to drive.



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      07-28-2020 10:05 PM #13
      Nothing on your list is fun to drive. I voted Arteon as its my favourite of the available choices.

      Agree with Alfa suggestion.

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      07-28-2020 10:26 PM #14
      Why no X3? In many ways (not all) it took the sport sedan torch from the 3-series, having your AWD and road bike room is gravy.



      edit: Not sure how reliable the BMW app is, but this build has everything you want incl. minimum nannies. MSRP a bit over $50k, but IME BMW should have some room even on an ordered car. If you give up the app, you can go from Executive down to Premium which saves budget and removes some parking stuff. https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...4sy08s/summary
      Last edited by ghost03; 07-28-2020 at 10:46 PM.

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      07-28-2020 11:13 PM #15
      Nothing 6cyl in this list makes me sad
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      07-29-2020 05:26 AM #18
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      Stinger or Stelvio
      Came to post the above.

      Also, Q50 Red Sport or pre owned CTS V Sport, or might be able to swing a CT6.
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      07-29-2020 07:26 AM #19
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      07-29-2020 07:33 AM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by gti5dr06 View Post
      Nothing 6cyl in this list makes me sad
      x2.

      I think that a S4 or S5 349HP could fit nicely. $52895 with T&P S5 is doable at a rounded 50K, although the OP probably will want a 60K version with 19", carbon inlays and Bang & Olufsen sound system.

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      07-29-2020 07:39 AM #21
      I'm a road / CX guy too..and been looking for a new vehicle.

      I've been on the fence about a 4Runner for a while but I keep coming back to this parts bin Honda Passport:



      Positives to me:
      280 hp /262 lb⋅ft - 3.5-liter V-6
      LED headlights
      AWD is pretty close to Acura's SH AWD
      Ventilated Seat option
      Great Storage
      Fold flat seats
      Touring/Elite model get a decent stereo and acoustic glass
      Loaded it stickers at 42ish...but folks are buying well under that.
      Honda is running .9% financing right now until the end of August
      MPG for AWD at least hits in the mid 20's
      2 row, not 3 Row and it's 6 inches shorter than a Pilot

      Downsides to me:
      I'm not crazy about Honda's 9-spd transmission.
      Have read mixed things about honda's safety sense stuff - apparently it is wonky in the passport.
      Push button shifter just annoys me.
      20" wheels. ugh. why, Honda? The 18" from the Ridgeline would have been fine
      Last edited by mouseOfMars; 07-29-2020 at 08:00 AM.

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      07-29-2020 08:59 AM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by mouseOfMars View Post
      I'm a road / CX guy too..and been looking for a new vehicle.

      I've been on the fence about a 4Runner for a while but I keep coming back to this parts bin Honda Passport:



      Positives to me:
      280 hp /262 lb⋅ft - 3.5-liter V-6
      LED headlights
      AWD is pretty close to Acura's SH AWD
      Ventilated Seat option
      Great Storage
      Fold flat seats
      Touring/Elite model get a decent stereo and acoustic glass
      Loaded it stickers at 42ish...but folks are buying well under that.
      Honda is running .9% financing right now until the end of August
      MPG for AWD at least hits in the mid 20's
      2 row, not 3 Row and it's 6 inches shorter than a Pilot

      Downsides to me:
      I'm not crazy about Honda's 9-spd transmission.
      Have read mixed things about honda's safety sense stuff - apparently it is wonky in the passport.
      Push button shifter just annoys me.
      20" wheels. ugh. why, Honda? The 18" from the Ridgeline would have been fine
      Enh, we have an MDX that's basically a Honda Passport. Its fun to drive for a giant people hauler. It handles better than it should, but I would still not say that its an excellent handler. The brakes also suck extremely badly, which limits how much fun you can have with it. When hustling it down a twisty road, you literally get 1 corner's worth of braking before you get massive fade for the next 10-15 minutes.

      The 9-speed transmission is okay with the newer programming. The Honda safety sense stuff is not as good as other manufacturers, the active cruise is a bit jerky and I leave the lane assist off because I don't like the way it makes the steering feel. The push button shifter you get used to though, and the 20" wheels are useful because it allows you to get good tires. With the 18" wheels, there's just not much other than truck tires available and they kinda suck from a sportiness perspective.


      If I was the OP, I'd be in an X3 or an Allroad.

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      07-29-2020 09:45 AM #23
      XC40 T5 AWD, CX5 2.5T, or that Passport posted above.

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      07-29-2020 10:27 AM #24
      I hate to say it but I think a Golf R accomplishes 95% of what you're looking for.
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      07-29-2020 10:28 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by mouseOfMars View Post
      I'm a road / CX guy too..and been looking for a new vehicle.

      I've been on the fence about a 4Runner for a while but I keep coming back to this parts bin Honda Passport:

      Positives to me:
      280 hp /262 lb⋅ft - 3.5-liter V-6
      LED headlights
      AWD is pretty close to Acura's SH AWD
      Ventilated Seat option
      Great Storage
      Fold flat seats
      Touring/Elite model get a decent stereo and acoustic glass
      Loaded it stickers at 42ish...but folks are buying well under that.
      Honda is running .9% financing right now until the end of August
      MPG for AWD at least hits in the mid 20's
      2 row, not 3 Row and it's 6 inches shorter than a Pilot

      Downsides to me:
      I'm not crazy about Honda's 9-spd transmission.
      Have read mixed things about honda's safety sense stuff - apparently it is wonky in the passport.
      Push button shifter just annoys me.
      20" wheels. ugh. why, Honda? The 18" from the Ridgeline would have been fine
      I will third the road/CX guy baseline, and on the Honda side, I thought long and hard about a Ridgeline before deciding against it. The utility is there, but the value (IMHO) is not, and I've come to learn that trucks are not the best bike vehicle unless you're schlepping along a couple muddy full sus rigs. I think the Passport is a solid deal but for whatever reason, it is NOT selling.

      I still haven't discovered a compelling reason to move away from my GTI with a roof rack. Judging by the parking lots at my CX races, neither has anyone else, and if they have, it's to an Outback or a full size truck

      Q5 and X3 should be on this list, IMO. I think OP will discover that most of these CUVs are barely hatchback-sized on the inside. I can tell you that my CX bike doesn't come close to comfortably fitting in my CX-5 with the wheel on, even with all the seats down. A wheel-on rack such as a Yakima Highroad is an easy solution.

      This has actually prompted me to go take a look at the Passport. Thanks, TCL
      Last edited by HotCarlWeathers; 07-29-2020 at 10:34 AM.
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