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      09-17-2020 01:37 PM #101
      I feel like no one gave a damn about the age of tires until just a few years ago. As long as they look and feel good (no checking, nice and pliable) than they aren't going "bad" on you, I wouldn't worry. It's rubber-not yogurt.

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      09-17-2020 03:35 PM #102
      Test fitted my Contis today.

      Super happy with how they fit/look.






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      09-17-2020 05:58 PM #103
      Quote Originally Posted by Dubveiser View Post
      Test fitted my Contis today.

      Super happy with how they fit/look.





      Look grippy!


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      09-17-2020 11:19 PM #104
      you'll be good man ... the worst snow is still better than any summer/all season
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      09-18-2020 11:22 AM #105
      Just ordered a set of the Conti Viking Contacts for the SS.


      They'll be replacing a set of General Arctic 12's which did duty for three seasons. I've been pretty pleased with them - I'd run a couple of sets of the previous gen Arctics on my VWs and just stuck with them. But the reviews on the Contis look good, so I thought I'd give something new a chance.

      Rochester pretty regularly takes the Golden Snow Globe award for most snowfall in the US. I pass on the performance winter tires, but I'm hoping the Contis might offer a bit better behavior on the dry days.

      I go with a 245/45-18 minus one fitment on a set of Camaro LT 18 x 8.5" wheels. They just clear the front calipers. The offset is a bit lower than the factory 19's, so it actually looks pretty decent I think.


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      09-18-2020 11:44 AM #106
      The contis still feel like marshmallows in the dry on my 86, but 245s on a 4000 lb car should probably feel a bit sharper than the 205s on my 2700 lb car. I plan to try more pressure in them this year. They're fantastic in the snow though.

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      09-18-2020 12:04 PM #107
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      The contis still feel like marshmallows in the dry on my 86, but 245s on a 4000 lb car should probably feel a bit sharper than the 205s on my 2700 lb car. I plan to try more pressure in them this year. They're fantastic in the snow though.

      Yeah I'm not expecting razor sharp turn in or anything - if they're a little less spongy than the Generals, I'll be super happy.

      Snow performance is the biggest factor.


      Anecdote about the Generals - first installed them not long after I bought the car in November 2017. With those, I was running a 235 width. A coworker and I headed out to lunch on a cold dry day and, being excited about the new car, was somewhat generous with the throttle, but not to the point of blazing the tires. Just what I thought were a few brisk bits of acceleration. I notice my coworker craning his neck to look in the side view mirror, just as he says, 'do you realize you were just laying patch for like 50 feet??' Those things were so pencil-eraser-ish new that I didn't even realize I was scrubbing them off in third gear. No noise, no traction warning, no drama. So yeah, things get dialed back significantly once the winters go on.
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      09-18-2020 12:32 PM #108
      Quote Originally Posted by Pushrods View Post
      Just ordered a set of the Conti Viking Contacts for the SS.


      They'll be replacing a set of General Arctic 12's which did duty for three seasons. I've been pretty pleased with them - I'd run a couple of sets of the previous gen Arctics on my VWs and just stuck with them. But the reviews on the Contis look good, so I thought I'd give something new a chance.

      Rochester pretty regularly takes the Golden Snow Globe award for most snowfall in the US. I pass on the performance winter tires, but I'm hoping the Contis might offer a bit better behavior on the dry days.

      I go with a 245/45-18 minus one fitment on a set of Camaro LT 18 x 8.5" wheels. They just clear the front calipers. The offset is a bit lower than the factory 19's, so it actually looks pretty decent I think.


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      09-18-2020 12:37 PM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by Pushrods View Post
      Yeah I'm not expecting razor sharp turn in or anything - if they're a little less spongy than the Generals, I'll be super happy.

      Snow performance is the biggest factor.


      Anecdote about the Generals - first installed them not long after I bought the car in November 2017. With those, I was running a 235 width. A coworker and I headed out to lunch on a cold dry day and, being excited about the new car, was somewhat generous with the throttle, but not to the point of blazing the tires. Just what I thought were a few brisk bits of acceleration. I notice my coworker craning his neck to look in the side view mirror, just as he says, 'do you realize you were just laying patch for like 50 feet??' Those things were so pencil-eraser-ish new that I didn't even realize I was scrubbing them off in third gear. No noise, no traction warning, no drama. So yeah, things get dialed back significantly once the winters go on.
      The contis have similarly low limits in the dry and wet FWIW. You can almost pretend that you're always driving on a dirt road. The massive torque from my stock 86 can light them up.

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      09-18-2020 12:53 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by audicoupej View Post
      You ever down in my neck of the woods? I need some SS exhaust sounds in my life.

      Unfortunately not very often. The occasional run to Skaneateles for work is about as close as I get with any regularity.

      Which is too bad, because I do love sharing the small block song of my people.
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      09-18-2020 12:54 PM #111
      Quote Originally Posted by troyguitar View Post
      The contis have similarly low limits in the dry and wet FWIW. You can almost pretend that you're always driving on a dirt road. The massive torque from my stock 86 can light them up.


      Eh, comes with the territory for the category I guess.
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      09-18-2020 01:57 PM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by Pushrods View Post
      Unfortunately not very often. The occasional run to Skaneateles for work is about as close as I get with any regularity.

      Which is too bad, because I do love sharing the small block song of my people.
      Too bad. I keep trying to talk myself into buying one but that means something else has to go and I’m not willing to sell anything yet.


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      09-19-2020 12:43 PM #113
      Nothing like the smell of fresh rubber overtaking the garage, love that smell.

      New Hakka R3s on the right:



      R2 tread:

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      R3 tread:



      I'll be curious to see how the R3 performs compared to the R2. It's hard to imagine they could improve upon the R2 and just looking at the tread patterns, neither seems particularly superior to the other I guess. Maybe the R3 compound is better.

      You can also just tell by handling the two tires that the R3 is a runflat and the R2 is not - the R3 seems a LOT stiffer just when handling it. Probably rides like dogsh!t but such is life for a car with no spare.

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      09-19-2020 06:41 PM #114
      Snow tires are funny in that I will look at a set from last season and think "these things are still like new!" and then I put them next to a new set and quickly feel like they are almost bald.

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      09-19-2020 07:08 PM #115
      Quote Originally Posted by UncleJB View Post
      Snow tires are funny in that I will look at a set from last season and think "these things are still like new!" and then I put them next to a new set and quickly feel like they are almost bald.
      funny you say that, had the same thought...though you can see my R2s are still showing the 6/32nd wear indicator so they should be good for 3 or 4 more seasons - this will be season number 5 and they are wearing well

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      09-19-2020 07:36 PM #116
      Has anyone ever talked about what type of wheels to mount snow tires on? I prefer steel wheels or something with less wide openings to prevent snow getting jam packed int here.

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      09-19-2020 07:42 PM #117
      Quote Originally Posted by Car Problems View Post
      Has anyone ever talked about what type of wheels to mount snow tires on? I prefer steel wheels or something with less wide openings to prevent snow getting jam packed int here.
      Post #8, but yes, QFT.

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      09-19-2020 08:40 PM #118
      It really doesn't matter, snow will get jammed packed behind the spoke or holes in the inner side of the wheel. Then it melts and refreezes, throwing the balance off until it melts again

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      09-21-2020 11:08 AM #119
      Mmm, fresh winter rubber.


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      09-21-2020 02:40 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by Pushrods View Post
      Mmm, fresh winter rubber.


      I raise you double.



      Date codes on the Contis is 2017. Probably why they were on special. I have not opened the Pirellis to check yet.


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      09-22-2020 07:06 AM #121
      Jut ordered mine, went with the steelies and Viking Contact 7's in 17" size. I couldn't find any cheap gold wheels that I liked so I stuck with the Vermont Winter Standards

      Time to start saving up for a kick-ass set of bronze summer wheels for when I eventually mess up these black OEMs.

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      09-22-2020 09:05 AM #124
      I really wish I couldve found a set of 21'' steelies. Would ahve looked so scik


      I did manage to snag a set of 21'' SQ5 wheels this week, so I have my setup completed.
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      09-22-2020 10:17 AM #125
      You steel wheel guys are making me sad.

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