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      09-23-2020 12:38 PM #276
      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      Has been replaced with...

      Bingo.

      I didn't even notice the powerdome missing with that crazy grille/hood combo.

      That said, this car sounds a million times better than any S55 I've ever heard so that's a

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      09-23-2020 12:42 PM #277
      Oh my god that looks terrible
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      09-23-2020 01:19 PM #278
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      09-23-2020 01:45 PM #279
      Wow, this thing is coming in at 3,800-3,900lbs. Was not expecting that.

      Buuuut, maybe I should have. Seems to be in line with the C63 and Giulia.
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      09-23-2020 01:54 PM #280
      Those grilling memes are great. Only thing is the M3/4/M4 have larger grilles than the X7 to be a nancy about it
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      09-23-2020 01:57 PM #281
      Quote Originally Posted by JustinCSVT View Post
      Wow, this thing is coming in at 3,800-3,900lbs. Was not expecting that.

      Buuuut, maybe I should have. Seems to be in line with the C63 and Giulia.
      The C63 is a fatty, but the Giulia QF is comparatively light weight at 3,360 lbs.

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      09-23-2020 02:06 PM #282
      Quote Originally Posted by FastGTi View Post
      Clearly I am biased, but I prefer this front end too. I can't see how it would be swapped in without some custom work around the fenders and hood.

      Having said that, if the BMW Gods bestow us with the M3 wagon I will get over the pig nose and do my best to get into one.
      some of the early reviews saying that the grill is to accommodate cooling the engine. I suppose the X3 didnt need it since its snout is so big to begin with.
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      09-23-2020 02:11 PM #283
      Quote Originally Posted by JMBII View Post
      I just thought that BMW said the large grill would be for coupes only. Why does the m3 have it. I would've preferred a sleeper M3 and bonkers M4. that would seem to cover all bases like bmw is trying to do.
      The M3 sedan/coupe have shared front ends for several generations now

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      09-23-2020 02:19 PM #284
      Quote Originally Posted by masa8888 View Post
      Just 100lbs away from the E39 M5. But yeah, the new M3 is basically taking the old M5's position dimensionally (not price) as it's also only 2.5 inches shorter than the E39.

      New M3

      Weight: 3850 lbs (wonder how accurate that is, since the M340iX is 3,968 lbs)
      Length: 185.7"
      Width: 71.9"
      Height: 56.7"
      Wheelbase: 112.2"
      MSRP: $69,000

      E39 M5

      Weight: 3.957 lbs
      Length: 188.3"
      Width: 70.9"
      Height: 55.6"
      Wheelbase: 111.4"
      MSRP: $75,000 (2000 dollars)
      According to those dimensions, I would guess that the G80 also has more interior space than the E39. A little lighter, a lot more power, AWD and a lot more technology.

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      09-23-2020 02:36 PM #285
      I think the front end with the carbon package looks much better than the standard front. It does away with the mesh and makes the front end more open.



      Here is an M4 in the wild


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      09-23-2020 02:37 PM #286
      Quote Originally Posted by masa8888 View Post
      The C63 is a fatty, but the Giulia QF is comparatively light weight at 3,360 lbs.
      Giulia QV is closer to 3800 lbs.

      Italians tried to throw around "dry weight" numbers to make it look better than it was/is.
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      09-23-2020 02:40 PM #287
      It never fails, each time a new M3 is introduced - I immediately like the previous one a lot more.

      The E46 will always be the best one to me, SMG and all

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      09-23-2020 02:52 PM #288
      Quote Originally Posted by freaknman View Post
      It never fails, each time a new M3 is introduced - I immediately like the previous one a lot more.

      The E46 will always be the best one to me, SMG and all
      Personally, I'm more into the European Spec E36.

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      09-23-2020 02:58 PM #289
      That green in the live shots is just... Damn

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      09-23-2020 03:06 PM #290
      Quote Originally Posted by Nealric View Post
      Personally, I'm more into the European Spec E36.
      And I also liked that band before they were cool!!!

      It's the same chorus every new model cycle. Yes, you're so hardcore for still liking the M3 that was for sale when you turned 16 better than the new one. Yes, we get it.

      But aside from the grill (and heinous BMW performance accessories), I have a feeling that this will be a monster of a car -- I think it will have all of the awesome aspects of the new M5 without many of the drawbacks. And you can get it RWD with a 6-speed manual.
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      09-23-2020 03:22 PM #291
      Carbon exterior pack: 4000 GBP
      Carbon brakes: 8000 GBP
      Carbon seats: 3500 GBP

      Yeah that all adds up pretty fast.

      UK only gets auto comp pack. No base manual. Sucks to be them.

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      09-23-2020 03:22 PM #292
      Quote Originally Posted by TheCool View Post
      I think the front end with the carbon package looks much better than the standard front. It does away with the mesh and makes the front end more open.


      Being open is something the front of this car will never be challenged on.
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      09-23-2020 03:27 PM #293
      Quote Originally Posted by SchnellFowVay View Post
      And I also liked that band before they were cool!!!

      It's the same chorus every new model cycle. Yes, you're so hardcore for still liking the M3 that was for sale when you turned 16 better than the new one. Yes, we get it.

      But aside from the grill (and heinous BMW performance accessories), I have a feeling that this will be a monster of a car -- I think it will have all of the awesome aspects of the new M5 without many of the drawbacks. And you can get it RWD with a 6-speed manual.
      Hey, I like what I like. Nostalgia certainly has something to do with it, but comparing the E36 and F80 chassis, the former was just so much more fun to drive. Besides, isn't the true hipster "I liked them before they were cool" M3 the E30?

      For what it's worth, I have no real complaints about the current M3 other than the grille (which I'm sure there will be 1,001 aftermarket fixes for within a month of customer deliveries). Agree it will be a monster

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      09-23-2020 03:29 PM #294
      I originally hated the F80 M3, both in looks and lack of 'rawness'... until I drove it on track/at speed and an M4 convertible on normal roads. I'm guessing I'll feel the same way about this one- it'll take a few years to appreciate the design and overlook the generational weight gains and unnecessary features.

      The dark green and blue colors look great.

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      09-23-2020 03:57 PM #295
      Quote Originally Posted by TheCool View Post
      Here is an M4 in the wild

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      09-23-2020 03:58 PM #296
      Every noticed how M3/M4 have quite 'meaty' tires? Like pretty big sidewalls for this type of car. I wonder why? They're not that low profile.
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      09-23-2020 04:03 PM #297
      Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
      Every noticed how M3/M4 have quite 'meaty' tires? Like pretty big sidewalls for this type of car. I wonder why? They're not that low profile.
      The M cars have traditionally had larger circumference tires than the regular road cars. It costs more and makes the wheels look "smaller," but bigger rollers can help offset stiff suspension and bushings and such. Porsche and Mercedes also do this, just very very tall tires.

      I mean, plenty of Boxters come with 20s. They should look absurd, but instead they just look big.

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      09-23-2020 04:10 PM #298
      I could live with that car in that green

      A bad ass car other than the front grille but i don't think its that bad.
      Boiler Up!

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      09-23-2020 04:22 PM #300
      Quote Originally Posted by masa8888 View Post
      The C63 is a fatty, but the Giulia QF is comparatively light weight at 3,360 lbs.
      Italians lie about curb weight like rappers lie about their age. Don't know where you saw 3300lb but the weight I'm seeing is about 3806 lbs. These cars are dense. It was cool that the F80 was so much lighter than the competition.
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