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    1. Member Rob's Avatar
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      09-19-2020 02:52 PM #1
      So we have a first here. A car that can't be parked outside. I am not making this up.

      We have had our new 2020 LR Defender since the beginning of July, and as such we were up at our lake house for the summer. There is no garage and there has never been a need for a garage there.

      We have had a long list of vehicles that we've parked at the property over the years: Audi, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Ford, Mercury, Land Rover, Honda, Jaguar and Mazda. Probably some I'm missing as well.

      It is a treed property and as such twigs and small branches typically fall on our cars during windy days. We've never had anything significant fall and we've had absolutely no damage on any vehicle from anything other than some sap to clean off.

      Until now.

      Our Defender is RIDDLED with dents in the tops of the front fenders, the hood, and the header piece between the top of the windshield and the main part of the roof.

      There are at least 8 dents that I have found so far.

      During this time, neither my wife nor I have noticed any branches of significance falling or resting on the Defender.

      Our previous LR3 was parked in the same exact location for 12 summers and it's bodywork is absolutely pristine in those same areas.

      Keep in mind the new Defender is a car that is supposed to be ruggedized for offroad use.

      I'm emailing the dealership now. I'll be calling JLR Canada on Monday as well as informing my insurance company.

      This car is full of all kinds of issues, but this is problem comes down to just schit quality.

      I may just get the damage fixed and put it up for sale.

      Any thoughts/suggestions would be helpful.

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      09-19-2020 02:59 PM #2
      Oh man, I’m sorry, this thing sounds like a real mess.

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      09-19-2020 03:00 PM #3
      That's awful to hear about all of the problems you are having.

      It makes no damn sense that what LR would call their ultimate off roader can't handle just being parked out in the woods.

      I owned a 94 Range Rover and it was a fantastic car in terms of toughness.

      I hope the upcoming Bronco lives up to the hype because it sure seems like the Defender has not.
      Last edited by VR6GURU; 09-19-2020 at 03:06 PM.

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      09-19-2020 03:21 PM #4
      you bought a defender and didn't make a thread til now?

      a$$hole

      for real though that sucks, cars with fragile sheet metal are painful to live with.

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      09-19-2020 03:31 PM #5
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      09-19-2020 03:40 PM #6
      No pictures. Commentary on and on about what happened.

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      09-19-2020 04:03 PM #7
      'Small branch" ?
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      09-19-2020 04:16 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Hand Cannon View Post
      No pictures. Commentary on and on about what happened.
      What's a good picture hosting site to use? I'll get some pics up - good and bad.

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      09-19-2020 04:18 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Roberto Dimento View Post
      'Small branch" ?
      LOL. I wish but sadly nothing so extraordinary coming down.

      Let's just say that neither my Focus RS nor my S2000 has suffered damage in the parking zone and neither of those cars have thick sheet metal.

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      09-19-2020 04:25 PM #10
      imgbb is a good free hosting site

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      09-19-2020 04:28 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by puma1552 View Post
      you bought a defender and didn't make a thread til now?

      a$$hole

      for real though that sucks, cars with fragile sheet metal are painful to live with.
      ****ing LOL!!!!

      Sorry to hear about this OP. Def provide some pics.... some before but preferably after.
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      09-19-2020 04:35 PM #12
      Are you sure there wasn't hail while you weren't paying attention? Are the dents just round dimples or are some longer dents? Branches and twigs probably wouldn't cause round dimples.
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      09-19-2020 04:47 PM #13
      The new Defender is aluminum right? Would be interesting to compare thickness of the Defender skin to the F-150. If this problem is what you say it is (dents because of thin/cheap metal), it would definitely be a deal breaker for me. Good news is these are probably hot sellers right now so you wouldn't lose your shirt getting rid of it early.
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      09-19-2020 04:51 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      Are you sure there wasn't hail while you weren't paying attention? Are the dents just round dimples or are some longer dents? Branches and twigs probably wouldn't cause round dimples.
      hmm... plot thickens

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      09-19-2020 05:10 PM #15


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      Quote Originally Posted by spockcat View Post
      Are you sure there wasn't hail while you weren't paying attention? Are the dents just round dimples or are some longer dents? Branches and twigs probably wouldn't cause round dimples.
      Branches for sure.

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      09-19-2020 06:55 PM #17
      Earlier this year we moved into a new house that has a giant oak tree near the driveway and no garage. Acorns have been falling off the tree and yesterday I realized that there are at least 10 dents on the BMW’s roof and hood. It was pristine when I bought it less than three months ago.

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      09-19-2020 07:10 PM #18
      we need more pics from when it was a happy purchase

      dare i ask did you have to pay ADM to get into this?

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      09-19-2020 07:41 PM #19
      Defender and a blue Focus RS? Noice garage.

      Where’s the cottage? I can use it on a weekend you’re not going to be there, just to see if my Edge gets dented there. You know, for science

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      09-19-2020 08:19 PM #20
      Cry me a river. Sounds like a yuppie problem to me. It’s a utility vehicle living outside. Accordingly, wear and tear is normal. All cars get dents from falling debris: hail, acorns, tree branches, etc. I’ve seen cars that dent just by looking at them (AC Aceca w/ Superleggera alloy bodywork). Your Defender is not that bad. Use it. Enjoy it. If dents bother you that much, then consider a carport, paint protection film, car cover, periodic PDR or get a different SUV with different abilities and compromises.


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      09-19-2020 08:52 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
      All cars get dents from falling debris: hail, acorns, tree branches, etc.
      Not any of his previous cars, supposedly.

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      09-19-2020 09:03 PM #22
      Quote Originally Posted by freedomgli View Post
      Cry me a river. Sounds like a yuppie problem to me. It’s a utility vehicle living outside. Accordingly, wear and tear is normal. All cars get dents from falling debris: hail, acorns, tree branches, etc. I’ve seen cars that dent just by looking at them (AC Aceca w/ Superleggera alloy bodywork). Your Defender is not that bad. Use it. Enjoy it. If dents bother you that much, then consider a carport, paint protection film, car cover, periodic PDR or get a different SUV with different abilities and compromises.

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      op has a right to be pissed

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      09-19-2020 09:10 PM #23
      That sucks.
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      09-19-2020 09:17 PM #24
      Bummer. That would put a dent on the enjoyment. What other kinds of issues is it full of?

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      09-19-2020 09:38 PM #25
      Can I chime in with the obligatory “it’ll buff out”?


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